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  • Quoth RayvenQ View Post
    IMO the crafting isn't bad, well, until you try to power level it, then again, it'd be the same in any game where you power level a non combat skill.

    I'd say leave blacksmithing relatively low until you're a much higher level since, no matter what you make, its all the same XP and higher levels take more xp to increase your level.
    Problem is its not hard to power level it. You can power level it by accident just by trying to do stuff with all the crap you've hauled back to town with you. Smithing is the worst offender though as it takes literally nothing to level it up and the interface is one click craft. Alchemy and Enchanting have a couple more clicks to them per item. Smithing, just click something then keep clicking till you run out of mats.

    I don't think Bethesda intended anyone to use more than one crafting skill at a time, but ingredients are so abundant and the skills useful even without perks that there's no reason not too try and use all three. But then you level yourself up too fast and all of a sudden are being devoured by raging sky demons you're not prepared to fight. It's even worse if you weren't intending to invest a ton of perks in the crafting skills, as then you don't have fantabulous gear to offset your lack of combat skills.

    Honestly, Smithing was the biggest mistake I made on my first character. I was only using it to improve weapons ( wasn't going to waist 6-7 perk points in it ) with a bit of Enchanting on the side, but it still shot up really fast just with mats I had looted ( not even went out of my way to mine ) and leveled me faster than I wanted. Felt like I had skipped part of the game and was suddenly in over my head. Mobs were *destroying* me as my defensive skills were still 5 or 6 levels back.

    Plus, you can craft the best stuff in the game and do so far too easily which, for me anyway, makes the game no fun anymore as you're overpowered and there's no longer any point in treasure hunting.

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    • I've only used alchemy to make a few potions...most of the time I rely on what I find in the wilds or on bodies.

      Anyhow, I've beaten the mainline quest (which was blink and you'll miss it type of thing) so...<spoilers>you get a dragon summon. It's nice but I wish you could do more with him. Still, awesome to call on him when I'm clearing out a fort of bandits. People running around on fire. Yeah.</spoilers>

      I am playing on a PS3 since my computers are from the stone age. My game save is over 11 MB so the game sometimes comes to a full stop. The lagging is so bad. Makes me sad.

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      • All your talk about the problems with the leveling system makes me REALLY glad I'll be playing on PC. My rule is I'm not allowed to play it until after I finish NaNoWriMo, so I still have a few days, but if I run into issues with leveling because I accidentally maxed out my smithing or whatever, then yay for console cheat commands!

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        • Quoth Kaylyn View Post
          All your talk about the problems with the leveling system makes me REALLY glad I'll be playing on PC. My rule is I'm not allowed to play it until after I finish NaNoWriMo, so I still have a few days, but if I run into issues with leveling because I accidentally maxed out my smithing or whatever, then yay for console cheat commands!
          I'm playing it on the PC, I just don't trust Bethesda console commands to not bring down the whole house of cards. Especially with Skyrim and its "Radiant Storytelling" that adapts to your character "class" as you go. I did try to use the console to fix the char, but the game and npcs kept on like I hadn't. -.-

          I don't plan on touching smithing ( or any crafting skill ) at all this time. At least not until I hit the soft cap at level 50.

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          • Whats that you say? Unenchanted DB Armour/TG Armour? Hells Yes!

            http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/64...C9527C5F1D64D/

            See, this is why i love the pc versions of the Elder Scrolls games.
            I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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            • Started progressing through the story a bit more, and things are definitely not as crazy-difficult now. In fact, have run into several things where it was eyebrow-raising easy.

              Also, not to spoil things, so I'll be casual about it.

              Life's gotten a bit ruff for our hero now.
              By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

              "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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              • Patch 1.2 came out today, if you can avoid it, do not let your game update. The patch breaks more than it fixes. If you have it on steam and haven't either set it to offline more, or told steam to not automatically update, then sadly you're SOL until they either roll back or make another patch.
                Last edited by RayvenQ; 11-30-2011, 06:18 PM.
                I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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                • Quoth RayvenQ View Post
                  Patch 1.2 came out today, if you can avoid it, do not let your game update. The patch breaks more than it fixes.
                  Examples? I haven't seen anything that jumps out right now.

                  I do know it was supposed to fix the large-save-makes-the-game-lag issue on PS3.
                  The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                  "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                  Hoc spatio locantur.

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                  • Quoth Geek King View Post
                    Examples? I haven't seen anything that jumps out right now.

                    I do know it was supposed to fix the large-save-makes-the-game-lag issue on PS3.
                    All resistances, inlcuding magical, disease and poison resistance basically do nothing now.

                    There's a few more but really, if you're on anything other than PS3, its not worth updating.
                    I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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                    • Quoth RayvenQ View Post
                      All resistances, inlcuding magical, disease and poison resistance basically do nothing now.
                      That may explain it. I'm running an archer-sneak, so 'm not usually taking damage to notice. (95 Sneak, all perked up)
                      The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                      "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                      Hoc spatio locantur.

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                      • Playing my first character again. I decided she should stay with the Empire so I'm finishing up that quest line. I've been playing Arkham City and kept trying to use Batarang in some of those battles, though
                        My wife made a Nord warrior but she gets frustrated so she lets me play for her. That's fine as I'm not really a two-hander type.
                        I have a...thing. Wanna see it?

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                        • Thinking of getting this for my bf for Christmas (because I really wanna play it!). Trying to subtly find out if he is expecting anyone to buy him games this year.
                          "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory." _Ed Viesturs
                          "Love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking, and don't settle" Steve Jobs

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                          • Woo, Construction Kit out sometime January (suck that its a month or more away)

                            Also, cover of one of the tavern song.

                            http://youtu.be/4z9TdDCWN7g
                            I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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                            • I maxed out (100) Sneak last night. Even ghosts and most "boss" enemies lose track of me now, running to where I last shot from, so I can shoot them from hiding almost every shot now. I take a distressing amount of joy in this.

                              <sneaks off>
                              The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                              "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                              Hoc spatio locantur.

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                              • Quoth Geek King View Post
                                I maxed out (100) Sneak last night. Even ghosts and most "boss" enemies lose track of me now, running to where I last shot from, so I can shoot them from hiding almost every shot now. I take a distressing amount of joy in this.

                                <sneaks off>
                                I take an inordinate amount of joy from someone walking into me and failing to notice I'm there.
                                The High Priest is an Illusion!

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