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  • Just need to rant a bit. Sorry.

    So its been a rough winter for us. Real, real rough. Like "oh look, we ran out of oil for the heating, and we only have 75 cents in our bank account..."

    We've been struggling to get by, and pretty much everyone in our family is aware of this.

    All except, apparently, my mother. Well, she knows, but she chooses to ignore it, saying that we "make more than her anyways, try living on the amount she gets." You're a single person household, mom. We are a four person.

    Anyways, so last night she called up, got my husband, and talked to him for half an hour. I noticed that he didn't talk a lot, mostly listened...and looked extremely, extremely uncomfortable the longer it went on. Eventually he hung up, and told me that the whole point of it was her trying to convince us to take on a "homeless teenager".

    Wait, what?

    According to her, her friend's friend's son who lives with OTHER family rather than his parents, is being kicked out. Why? Nobody knows. Either way, he's two months to graduating high school, so "he can move on", and needs a place to stay. I'm not clear on why, but for some reason, he's not moving in with any of his friends, he's not moving back in with either of his parents, and he's not even going to move in with his long-time girlfriend.

    So my mother, so helpfully, volunteered our home. Without really discussing it first with us. She just kinda told them "Oh hey, my daughter could probably take him in!"

    Let me especially point out a few things:

    - She does not know this kid. He's 18, that's really all she knows. She's never met him, nothing. But she assures me he's "completely trustworthy, a very, very well behaved kid, and would not do anything inappropriate". So....she knows him that well? Oh no, no she doesn't, she just knows he wouldn't.

    - I have two young daughters. How dare I insinuate that he might do something pervy!! How could I?! Oh, but again, she doesn't know this guy, but how dare I make assumptions that he could possibly do something like this!

    - She wants him to sleep in our den. Which has basically all of our stuff. Our DVDs, Blurays, video games, consoles, and my collectibles. Did I seriously just assume that he might be a thief as well?! He's a good kid, he would never do that! No, no she hasn't met him, no she doesn't know him, but he wouldn't do that!

    - We cannot afford the burden of another person, even if everything else was in line. But, how could we, we're terrible people because we still actually own things. Maybe if we sold off some of our stuff, we could help out this poor kid, are we seriously trying to force him to sleep in the streets? And you know, this leads in to her other problem with us, we actually bought a game two months ago, that money could've been spent on our children! Preordered and paid for five months back? Well, that's a lie, and that money should've all gone to the kids, stop buying stuff for yourselves, and start selling off your video games! (Sidenote: I HAVE sold a lot of my collectible games, she has no idea how bad I cried that I had to part with Tactics Ogre and Misadventures of Tron Bonne)

    - If it's such a big deal that he find a place, why couldn't he stay with her? But, don't I realize that she won't be home, and he'd be at her place, alone?! How could I start laughing at that point, I need to realize that he simply can't stay at her place...she doesn't know what he'd be doing, and he might get bored. How dare I say that is the same problem I have, its nothing alike!


    Needless to say, I've completely put my foot down, I've got to worry about my kids' safety first above all, not even to mention the myriad other problems that this would entail.

    I got lectured about my bad attitude over this for a good 20-30 minutes. Ended up hanging up, I just don't have the energy to deal with this sort of thing, there's PLENTY of buddies in her network she could've asked, who are in better positions to help. But instead she volunteers us.

    So freaking angry right now, it's not even funny.
    By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

    "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

  • #2
    I don't have any advise, but here's some internet hugs and some cookies to hopefully make you feel a little bit better. It sucks having to stand up to your parents like that, especially when they've put you in a no-win situation.
    At the conclusion of an Irish wedding, the priest said "Everybody please hug the person who has made your life worth living. The bartender was nearly crushed to death.

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    • #3
      Quoth Seraph View Post
      I'm not clear on why, but for some reason, he's not moving in with any of his friends, he's not moving back in with either of his parents, and he's not even going to move in with his long-time girlfriend.
      RED FLAG #1. No friends or relatives to turn to!! Methinks he already alienated them with his as yet unspecified baggage. What do they (your mother included) know that they aren't telling? Also why you and not your brother.
      Quoth Seraph View Post
      If it's such a big deal that he find a place, why couldn't he stay with her? But, don't I realize that she won't be home, and he'd be at her place, alone?! How could I start laughing at that point, I need to realize that he simply can't stay at her place...she doesn't know what he'd be doing, and he might get bored. How dare I say that is the same problem I have, its nothing alike!
      Glad to see you caught the irony there. BTW, she's "knows" he's good and would never do this how? Does that have to do with the reason he's homeless in the first place?
      Quoth Seraph View Post
      I got lectured about my bad attitude over this for a good 20-30 minutes. Ended up hanging up
      You hung up about 20-30 minutes too late, Seraph.

      Good to see that your DH is on the same page with you about this. No good deed goes unpunished, you'll get burned if you cave. At worst, the concerns in your OP will be realized; at best, he'll get comfortable with the arrangement and never leave. I have plenty of relatives who speak from experience. Come to think of it: remember your brother.

      In the unlikely event that this individual shows at your door, call a cab and send him to the Salvation Army, they have much more training and experience in these matters than you do.
      I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

      Who is John Galt?
      -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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      • #4
        You're definitely doing the right thing. Your mother is completely out of line, there are too many red flags with the kid and too many risks at your house even if you could afford it. TBH, it sounds like she has it in her head somehow that you "have money" and can take care of these problems. Crazy.

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        • #5
          Quoth taxguykarl View Post
          What do they (your mother included) know that they aren't telling?
          Quoth taxguykarl View Post
          Come to think of it: remember your brother.
          NEVAR FORGET.

          Seriously. Never forgetting that.

          Quoth Grendus View Post
          TBH, it sounds like she has it in her head somehow that you "have money" and can take care of these problems. Crazy.
          She does. She really, really does. We used to be sorta financially stable, up until this winter kicked the ankles out from underneath us. I think the big problem is, we got a bathroom renovation done because our current one was rotting out. Literally. It was just about an emergency to get it done, and she thinks that because we got that done, we have TONS of money to spare.

          Ummmmm, no.
          By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

          "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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          • #6
            I hope that someday you can weaponize your Enemy of Normalcy powers and put them to work on other people.

            We've already seen the beginnings of this. Now to find a way to truly harness it and make your problems go away... by giving them problems of their own! Mwahahaha--

            *koffkoff*

            (ahem.) Sorry about that.
            PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

            There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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            • #7
              Seraph, considering your mother's severely tenuous relation with reality, you could be in a your old domicile of despair and she would still believe you defecate currency.
              Stand your ground--and definately cut her off if this is the norm for her.
              I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

              Who is John Galt?
              -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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              • #8
                No real advice here other than what's been said (stand your ground, trust your instincts, and don't let her get to you) but lots of hugs and good thoughts. I am going through some B.S. with my parents as well, so even though it's of a different nature, I can still relate.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                  I hope that someday you can weaponize your Enemy of Normalcy powers and put them to work on other people.
                  nooo, then the government will come for me!

                  Quoth taxguykarl View Post
                  Seraph, considering your mother's severely tenuous relation with reality
                  i kid you not, that is the third time I've heard that exact phrase used about her this week. Weird.

                  Quoth MaggieTheCat View Post
                  No real advice here other than what's been said (stand your ground, trust your instincts, and don't let her get to you) but lots of hugs and good thoughts. I am going through some B.S. with my parents as well, so even though it's of a different nature, I can still relate.
                  Thanks, Maggie. /hugs
                  By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                  "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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                  • #10
                    A parent is something that does not change. They will always be your parent. This person is abusing your trust and your home life. She has already done things that I, personally, would have considered unforgivable. You do not have to cut her out of your life. But I would simply start backing away. "I'm sorry.. you need medication.." click should be a recurring theme.
                    You hold power over me and abuse it. I do not like it, and say so. Suddenly I am a problem.. FIND. A. MIRROR!

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                    • #11
                      My favorite phrase in the universe: "I'm sorry, that won't be possible".

                      I think it's kind of funny to watch people sputter around when they hear that. Also, you don't have to defend yourself. Another board that I read has a rule about these situations. The rule is don't JADE. JADE stands for Justify Argue Defend Explain. You don't have to do any of that. Doing so just opens yourself up to the other person trying counteract your objections, and you really don't owe anybody an explanation for these sorts of decisions.

                      I agree with the others. Stand your ground. Smile sweetly and just keep repeating "I'm sorry, that won't be possible".

                      And here's some hugs and chocolate chip cookies.
                      At the conclusion of an Irish wedding, the priest said "Everybody please hug the person who has made your life worth living. The bartender was nearly crushed to death.

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                      • #12
                        "Tenuous relation with reality"

                        Hmmm.....

                        Nah, she's got a pretty strong relationship with reality.


                        Just not ours.

                        Or, to quote a friend, "I'm not sure what color the sky is in her little world, but the rent sure must be cheap for all the time she spends there."

                        In fact, I'm starting to wonder if she comes from the same reality as some of your clients.

                        Wait! That's it! You're not from THIS reality originally. You're from theirs! You escaped at an early age, and have built your powerzs based on logic and intelligence (and more than a little Normalcy-bending). Now they keep trying to drag you back, like not-quite-so-cute Heartless from Kingdom Hearts! (They're also not quite so easy to hack up with a keyblade, but that's a different issue...)

                        Hugs and cookies to you, Seraph. I have to occasionally put up with similar BS from the ni-laws, but they're easier to ignore...
                        "If your day is filled with firefighting, you need to start taking the matches away from the toddlers…” - HM

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Crossbow View Post
                          Wait! That's it! You're not from THIS reality originally. You're from theirs! You escaped at an early age, and have built your powerzs based on logic and intelligence (and more than a little Normalcy-bending). Now they keep trying to drag you back, like not-quite-so-cute Heartless from Kingdom Hearts! (They're also not quite so easy to hack up with a keyblade, but that's a different issue...)
                          hmm...Ansem -> Xemnas, Sora -> Roxas...

                          I've got it! If Seraph's like a Heartless, then her Nobody is Hexspar! Which is a pretty badass sounding name.


                          ni-laws
                          I know this is a typo, but now I'm picturing the in-laws being members of the Knights Who Saaay.... NI!
                          PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

                          There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Crossbow View Post
                            Wait! That's it! You're not from THIS reality originally. You're from theirs! You escaped at an early age, and have built your powerzs based on logic and intelligence (and more than a little Normalcy-bending). Now they keep trying to drag you back
                            Hmmm.....that would explain how Seraph became the only functional one in her family....either that or she was adopted or switched at the hospital.
                            I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

                            Who is John Galt?
                            -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post

                              I know this is a typo, but now I'm picturing the in-laws being members of the Knights Who Saaay.... NI!
                              Typo, yes. But it still seems to fit for some of them...

                              Quoth taxguykarl View Post
                              Hmmm.....that would explain how Seraph became the only functional one in her family....either that or she was adopted or switched at the hospital.
                              There had to be a reason somewhere...


                              And apprently I can't type today. At work an hour ago, instead of Passing a code change, I ASSED it. In hindsight (pun intended), it seems appropriate for the change anyway....
                              "If your day is filled with firefighting, you need to start taking the matches away from the toddlers…” - HM

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