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**~~elsporko~~** · 05-08-2010, 12:55 PM

Did she get charged with a crime? If not then it seems like she should be able to keep potential employers from knowing what happened by getting creative in the interview and not giving a reference from the last store.

**BookstoreEscapee** · 05-08-2010, 03:39 PM

Well if it went to court there is some record...don't know if it would show up in a background check.

Apparently she shouldn't be working anywhere they sell age-restricted items. If she does get another such job she better learn to card everyone...

**Plaidman** · 05-08-2010, 05:21 PM

From what i read so far on Louisiana, is that its seems relatively minor crime compared to other states. She'd be in jail right now if she did that in Oregon, plus a hefty $20,000 dollar fine since she did it twice, not once. (Assuming it was a police sting).

I would say that any future job in any bar, or tabacco stand, is pretty much not going to happen for her. Any job with age restriction. Hell, she'll likely be unable to get a job at a Fred Meyer's since they sell beer there. I mean, she might get lucky, but she will be seriously under watch. And if even one person gets through that's 26, even though they are old enough, if she don't card them, she'll likely be put someplace that doesn't deal with selling things.

**~~Midnight12~~** · 05-09-2010, 02:35 PM

got updates. the first time was an honest mistake and the officer just happened to be there getting his lunch. second time at a different job was an actual sting.
from what I hear she tends to let her judgment fail her. so yeah. it goes by you HAVE to card anyone who looks under 30. I don't get carded because I have grey hairs and apparently look old but I show ID on the rare times I buy any. so yeah. but for her it was a major fail. There are people here old enough but look barely 21 so yeah.

either way she is screwed at home because I hear that just about every other day her mom starts an argument with her about where was her head at when this happened. thankies for the help!

I feel bad for thinking this as sis has a life too but maybe now she can watch my daughter on thursdays so I can make mah group meetings. plus i'd at least compensate her for it

**ottid** · 05-10-2010, 09:20 AM

Wow, you don't get carded just because of grey hair? I need to highlight mine more then

21 and been going grey since I was 16/17

**poofy_puff** · 05-10-2010, 01:47 PM

She "tends to let her judgment fail her" and you want to leave an infant baby in her care?

Ooooookay.

**r2cagle** · 05-10-2010, 02:10 PM

She will still be able to get a job, just not necessarily anyplace selling alcohol or tobacco. And she would probably not be considered for a job that has responsibility for making judgement calls. At least by any employer that has a lick of common sense.... but I've been in Louisiana for 16 years... I've seen some strange insane things happen. I've known of people that were jailed for embezzlement, and when they get out, get a job where they have control over money??? People are a strange and illogical breed.

**RavenStarr** · 05-10-2010, 04:57 PM

Quoth poofy_puff View Post

She "tends to let her judgment fail her" and you want to leave an infant baby in her care?

Ooooookay.

Just because Lexia's sis in law is lousy at judging when to card someone doesn't make her a lousy babysitter. Unless you think that sis in law would give baby some beer. I don't think she would though.

**poofy_puff** · 05-10-2010, 07:49 PM

Quoth RavenStarr View Post

Just because Lexia's sis in law is lousy at judging when to card someone doesn't make her a lousy babysitter. Unless you think that sis in law would give baby some beer. I don't think she would though.

My point was that people who exhibit poor judgment in one area tend to exhibit poor judgment in other areas. She may not give the baby some beer but she might put the baby in some other unsafe situation. Lack of common sense can extend to a variety of scenarios.

I wouldn't leave MY kid with someone like that, if I had one.

**~~Midnight12~~** · 05-17-2010, 09:12 PM

Quoth ottid View Post

Wow, you don't get carded just because of grey hair? I need to highlight mine more then

21 and been going grey since I was 16/17

PROBABLY because I don't wear makeup on a daily basis, and don't dye my hair anymore (not myself) and because of the bags under my eyes, and i look my age sometimes.

Quoth poofy_puff View Post

She "tends to let her judgment fail her" and you want to leave an infant baby in her care?

Ooooookay.

yeah no that is not going to happen. plans changed. and poofy has a point
Younger sis in law of this topic would rather be home playing PS3 or what have you and not have to do anything. She is of the age where she would - by society's standards psh - either be in college, holding a good job or something of such. buuuut it not go that way. she does stuff because her mother makes her, and I do feel she has been made the maid and pet servant of the house (IE take care of the pets cause the MIL and step father are lazy sometimes) but if they didn't make her it wouldn't be done.

After having done more observing I trust sis in law with daughter while I am AROUND. Past that forget it.

MIL has gotten her up every day at 8am to go job hunting so my help is not needed. I feel for her but its also kinda funny at the same time. heh. if she wanted to leave "that horrible place" she would have done so years ago but apparently its not that bad since she CHOOSES to remain.

**Bella_Vixen** · 05-20-2010, 06:16 PM

I've learned to card anybody who looks relatively young. Not that I got busted in a sting or anything, but...I carded this one guy for cigarettes, even though I thought he was close to 30. He was 19.

People age badly around here. My former NM is 28. I thought he was 38. Another night manager is 35. I thought he was 5-10 years older.

**~~Midnight12~~** · 05-23-2010, 06:22 PM

so apparently this issue kind of resolved itself. mil has gotten sis up every morning except weekends to go job hunting so nothing I could have done really. thankies for the advice and yeah. she has learned her lesson as her job options are quite limited for a while

**Jester** · 05-25-2010, 11:58 AM

Quoth LexiaFira View Post

My youngest sis in law got fired for selling alky to a minor. This is her second offense. Not going to get into details but I know she is pretty much effed job wise.

is she screwed for a long time (years?) or can she do something about it, and TRY and get a job elsewhere or. Her best bet is a job that does not cell tobacco and or alcohol because of this?

I cannot comment directly on Louisiana laws, as I am not familiar with them, but I can use my experience in Arizona and Florida as a guideline.

In both those states, she would not be able to get a job in which she sold age-restricted items for years. That is in addition to any fines, jail time, etc. And that is for a first offense. I have no idea what a second offense entails.

In short, her job options will not include any bars, restaurants, convenience stores, or grocery stores that sell age-restricted items. She probably also cannot expect to work in any adult-themed shops, nor even in a movie theater, due to age restrictions. Law enforcement and law enforcement-related positions seem right out.

However, she is not completely screwed. Office jobs are definitely open, as are retail jobs that don't deal with age restrictions, such as clothing stores, auto parts stores, restaurants that don't sell alcohol, fast food, video arcades, toy stores, etc., etc. You get the idea.

Quoth poofy_puff View Post

My point was that people who exhibit poor judgment in one area tend to exhibit poor judgment in other areas. She may not give the baby some beer but she might put the baby in some other unsafe situation. Lack of common sense can extend to a variety of scenarios.

I wouldn't leave MY kid with someone like that, if I had one.

Yes, people who exhibit poor judgment can do so in a number of areas, but someone screwing up at their job is not even in the same ballpark as them endangering a baby. Sorry, but I think you are overreacting here.

And yes, I know that Lexia said she would not trust the woman in question to be alone with her baby, but I am talking in larger generalities than just this woman, as you also seemed to be.

After all, who among us has NOT fucked up in some way at their job, or shown poor judgment? I know I have.

**~~Midnight12~~** · 05-25-2010, 05:22 PM

yeah I effed up at my job. and I love my sis in law I do. I chose to back off on the babysitting not based on her job eff up but in the fact she is already stressed from her mother on her case EVERY DAY, looking at least 5 hours a day for a job, call backs and interviews and so on and generally stressed out period. So I'm giving her space. She comes over every other weekend to visit for a few days anyways and spends plenty of time and someone is always at the house besides myself and daughter so even if she were alone with DD i doubt anything bad would happen.

her best options are working at wally world over night in stocking, or house keeping at the local casino motels as they've called her back

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