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  • #76
    Quoth TrailerParkMedic
    My advice is not intended for long term health.
    Everyone needs to read that when they read your posts. My advice IS intended for long term health. If you want to lose weight and not eat right, then do all the fad diets you want. If all you want is weight loss, STOP EATING. Starve yourself. Its about as sustainable as eating nothing but ice cream and calling it a "weight loss" regiment.

    If you want to lose weight, keep it off, improve your health and reduce your risk of life long diseases then this thread is for you.
    Last edited by Whiskey; 08-24-2010, 04:02 AM.
    Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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    • #77
      My comments match with Whiskey's. They're the best info I have (in short form) for becoming healthy, and developing and sustaining a healthy weight.

      Though I admit, I have not actually SAID that you need to identify your basic caloric requirement for your current activity level, and then tweak so you're eating slightly under calories in = calories out to lose weight, slightly over to gain weight, and the same to maintain weight.

      However, if you eat largely whole grains and culinary vegetables, with only a small portion of meats, egg, and dairy, and a tiny amount of fats and oils and sugars, - well, there's a lot of food you can eat that way and still have a caloric intake that's suitable for a sedentary lifestyle.

      As you learn your hunger cues, you can choose to be just mildly peckish much of the time if you need to lose weight. (Not hungry, just a bit 'hmmm, I'll enjoy lunch'-ish.)
      Fully satiated to gain weight slowly. And just a bit under 'feeling full' to be a stable weight.
      Seshat's self-help guide:
      1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
      2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
      3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
      4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

      "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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      • #78
        Quoth Seshat View Post
        Though I admit, I have not actually SAID that you need to identify your basic caloric requirement for your current activity level, and then tweak so you're eating slightly under calories in = calories out to lose weight, slightly over to gain weight, and the same to maintain weight.
        I have. I'll post the algorithm tomorrow.

        As you learn your hunger cues, you can choose to be just mildly peckish much of the time if you need to lose weight.
        Personally, I'm never hungry. I have to force myself to eat because I know I need to keep my calories up if I want enough energy to continue to lose weight.

        A lot of people dont realize how much food 1800 calories is in healthy food. (I eat a lot more than 1800 though ahaha.)

        One of my friends absolutely hates me because I eat bacon constantly during my lift days. I eat bacon and lose weight.
        Last edited by Whiskey; 08-24-2010, 04:27 AM.
        Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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        • #79
          Quoth trailerparkmedic View Post
          I can't say anything about Jenny Craig, but Weight Watchers does teach you all of that. They encourage veggies, whole grains, etc. You have to calculate portion size to get your points. Cooking is strongly encouraged in meetings and on the website.
          A friend of mine has done very well on Weight Watchers. She's lost something like 50 lbs and is maintaining that. I'd consider it, but I don't even like to exercise in public, much less weigh myself in public. yeesh.

          It's just tough. There's an overload of information out there, some is good, some is bad, a lot of it conflicts. I did go to the dietitian at the health center, and she gave me a lot of good advice. But...dammit, I live less than a block from a Dairy Queen and most of the time I do. not. feel. like. cooking. Or I don't have the time. Freakin' grad school.
          "Even arms dealers need groceries." ~ Ziva David, NCIS

          Tony: "Everyone's counting on you, just do what you do best."
          Abby: "Dance?" ~ NCIS

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          • #80
            ^you tried crockpot cooking? I can live for at least four days off of one crock pot full of food and misc things that take 2 minutes to make
            Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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            • #81
              Quoth Whiskey View Post
              ^you tried crockpot cooking? I can live for at least four days off of one crock pot full of food and misc things that take 2 minutes to make
              I don't like the idea of leaving something like that on while I'm away from home. I know it's silly...but I'm a bit paranoid like that.
              "Even arms dealers need groceries." ~ Ziva David, NCIS

              Tony: "Everyone's counting on you, just do what you do best."
              Abby: "Dance?" ~ NCIS

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              • #82
                Quoth AdminAssistant View Post
                I don't like the idea of leaving something like that on while I'm away from home. I know it's silly...but I'm a bit paranoid like that.
                Me too....I have a Crockpot that I never use (it was well-meaning gift) because I am outta the house 11-12 hr day..and the pot has no timer..grrr.


                I do love the idea of them though, and they are good for the weekend...mhh..maybe I'll use it this weekend...make a veggie stew.
                "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory." _Ed Viesturs
                "Love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking, and don't settle" Steve Jobs

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                • #83
                  Quoth Cat View Post
                  Me too....I have a Crockpot that I never use (it was well-meaning gift) because I am outta the house 11-12 hr day..and the pot has no timer..grrr.
                  Nothing cooks for less than 10 hours on low. And your crockpot would cause just as much damage as your toaster, microwave or your fridge that i'm sure you leave plugged in all the time while you're not there. Mine hasnt burnt my house down yet
                  Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                  • #84
                    Quoth AccountingDrone View Post
                    PCOS is seriously under-diagnosed, and many male GYN basically consider the effects mental. We are just being wusses about things.

                    Really, females are evolved to hang onto fat for pregnancy and sprog nurturing, which pretty much sucks
                    Totally agreed. Fortunately, my GP (general practitioner/family doctor) believes me. But then, he's aware how well I handle pain in general, and seen me come in on a crampy day.

                    As for us being evolved to hang on to fat: grraaaarrrghhhh. So true.
                    Seshat's self-help guide:
                    1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                    2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                    3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                    4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                    "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                    • #85
                      Quoth Seshat View Post
                      As for us being evolved to hang on to fat: grraaaarrrghhhh. So true.
                      It ain't all bad if you get it in the right place.
                      Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                      • #86
                        Quoth Whiskey View Post
                        Nothing cooks for less than 10 hours on low. And your crockpot would cause just as much damage as your toaster, microwave or your fridge that i'm sure you leave plugged in all the time while you're not there. Mine hasnt burnt my house down yet

                        Mine's a 2 or 8 hr option, and no way will I leave it plugged it more than that...not worth even the minor risk (hell, I unplug the coffee pot cuz the Fat Tabby(tm) hits the switch now and then)

                        But I think I will do a veg stew this weekend...just to use it
                        "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory." _Ed Viesturs
                        "Love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking, and don't settle" Steve Jobs

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                        • #87
                          Quoth Cat View Post
                          Mine's a 2 or 8 hr option, and no way will I leave it plugged it more than that...not worth even the minor risk (hell, I unplug the coffee pot cuz the Fat Tabby(tm) hits the switch now and then)

                          But I think I will do a veg stew this weekend...just to use it
                          what kind of crock pot do you have that has a 2/8 hour option? Mine has high, low and warm. Whats the veggie stew comprised of?
                          Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                          • #88
                            Quoth Whiskey View Post
                            (snippy)
                            If you want steak, steamed kale, and sweet potatoes for breakfast, do it.
                            (snippy)
                            Oh dear lord that sounds delicious
                            Also, unfortunately, not all of us get it in our boobs or butts. ... Mostly boobs, amirite girls?
                            "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
                            "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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                            • #89
                              Quoth teh_blumchenkinder View Post
                              Oh dear lord that sounds delicious
                              Also, unfortunately, not all of us get it in our boobs or butts. ... Mostly boobs, amirite girls?
                              if you want a butt, do squats. My derrière has gotten twice its size (its mediocre now) since i started squatting heavy weight.
                              Thou shalt not take the name of thy goddess Whiskey in vain.

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                              • #90
                                Greetings friends !

                                I usually put my crock pot on overnight, works for me.

                                I have been to the supermarket and I am going to make tonight rice with chicken and tomatoes, celery, courgette and aubergine - I think these are zuchinni and eggplant in American, mushrooms and red pepper.

                                Not sure yet which herbs to use.

                                See you after dinner.
                                Customer "why did you answer the phone if you can't help me?"

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