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    So I did some hiking by Deception Pass the other day. I hiked up Goose Rock, which is the highest point on Whidbey Island (which doesn't say much but whatever).

    The thing about the pass and surrounding park is that it's very close to a naval air base. If you camp or hike or exist in the general area, you will see and hear the jets.

    On this day there were no less than three flying overhead and right over the park. I could hear them from the moment I got out of the car and could see them flying overhead, so they were at it before I even started hiking, so it's not like they came out of nowhere for this family. And from the summit, you could watch all three planes at once circling the area and do touch-and-goes at the base.

    I was maybe 300 yards from the summit when I passed a large family coming down the hill. As I heard a jet pass nearby, I also heard one of the adults say, "There's that sound again. What is that, anyway?"

    ...you absolutely cannot tell me that this person was just at the summit and didn't see the planes. They were flying right by the hill!

    Here's a pic I took for reference:



    Three noisy planes circling right where you were just standing, and you haven't figured out they're causing the sounds? That was a particular level of special.
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    Too bad it was a naval air station rather than an air force base - otherwise you could have told them "That's an Eagle", or "That's a Falcon", leaving them even more confused.
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    • #3
      He can say it's a big hornet buzzing around.
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      • #4
        I lived under the flightline of NOB/NAS Norfolk in Norfolk VA. I can identify pretty much every plane by sound. Nothing like that 5 am cargo lift stepping off. Though after getting to fly in a CH53G named Baby, I have a fondness for the sound of a General Electric T64 =)
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        • #5
          When you posted about the storm, I figured we lived in the same general area but I didn't realize how close! I'm about 3 miles from the base, and yep, the jets are a constant white noise in the background. Next time just tell them, "That's the sound of freedom!" LOL!
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          • #6
            Quoth Headset Hellion View Post
            the jets are a constant whiteRed, White, and Blue noise in the background. Next time just tell them, "That's the sound of freedom!"
            Fixed that for your.
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            • #7
              Quoth AccountingDrone View Post
              I lived under the flightline of NOB/NAS Norfolk in Norfolk VA. I can identify pretty much every plane by sound. Nothing like that 5 am cargo lift stepping off. Though after getting to fly in a CH53G named Baby, I have a fondness for the sound of a General Electric T64 =)
              I was at NAS Oceana for a long time and it would screw up my wife when I'd call out jets w/o looking up. I miss Tomcats!
              AkaiKitsune
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              • #8
                If jets are the sound of freedom, then the Rolls-Royce Merlin has been called "the sound of victory".

                Incidentally, the aircraft in the photo isn't a jet...

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                • #9
                  Quoth Chromatix View Post

                  Incidentally, the aircraft in the photo isn't a jet...
                  No they had two jets and that big...whatever it is. I am not a plane person. All three of them were circling and that big one made a lot of noise during the go parts of the touch-and-go. Did not manage decent photos of the jets unfortunately.
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                  • #10
                    lol, a friend stood outside my dad's house and said "what's that sound?" I said "cars." The house is near the highway. I think it's interesting that some people don't know those extremely common sounds, planes or cars. I mean, why can I identify them but others can't, what sounds do I not know?
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                    • #11
                      When I was in the AF in the early 70's, I was stationed at Travis AFB in California. We'd have C5's flying over all the time. Didn't take me long to get used to them to the point that I could sleep thru them flying over the barracks.
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                      • #12
                        I once lived mere yards from a major north/south freeway in California. We'd know when there was an accident because we'd hear the thump. BUT, we'd know when there was an accident up the road out of ear shot or sight because all of the sudden the drone of vehicular noise altered to one of multiple engines idling - a very different sound. You truly can learn to sleep through anything, although it may take a while...

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                        • #13
                          Of course, now I have to share my story from quite a number of years ago.

                          I and a friend happened to be in the Lake District when a partial solar eclipse was due to be visible from there - totality was only due to be visible from much further south, and word was that it was utterly packed down there, so we just climbed a local hill - not one of the big mountains, but a mound in the middle of the valley - to get a good view of the partial. I took an old and slightly broken SLR camera, which I planned to use for viewing since the lens could be "stopped down" with the mirror still open.

                          While we waited for the event to begin, we could see RAF jets, mostly Tornadoes, doing their usual low-level flying exercises; the Lake District is one of their favourite locations for this, since the terrain is ideal for the "low level stealth penetration" tactics the RAF have specialised in since the Dambuster raid. They also have training areas in Wales and Scotland for the same purpose. More than once, I've seen a jet fly so precisely over my boat that they had to have been using me as a simulated target.

                          Anyway, the jets were flying in pairs some distance apart laterally, and we amused ourselves by spotting the distant, moving dots against the backdrop of the hills, then looking for the other one. But then we spotted one at the extreme edge of the valley, and it wasn't immediately clear where the other one was - it wasn't by the opposite edge.

                          Of course, then I saw it - coming straight for us, a stationary but swiftly growing dot silhouetted against the sky, not the hills. And it was completely silent. And my friend was looking in completely the wrong direction, thinking it had to have already passed us. Did I mention that we were right on top of a small hill, and that the RAF *specialise* in low-level flight?

                          Me:

                          My friend saw where I was looking and turned around just in time to spot the jet, now very large and obviously moving very fast, before it flew directly overhead with an immense roar of jet exhaust. Naturally, we hadn't heard its approach because it was moving at a large fraction of the speed of sound.

                          Friend:
                          Me:

                          Mach Loop, Wales
                          Wales from the Cockpit
                          Lake District from the Cockpit
                          Tornadoes at Airshow

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                          • #14
                            Oh, a fellow islander! I used to live on the Fidalgo side of the pass, about a mile west of the bridge (I could see NAS Whidbey from my living room).

                            Given how low those flyovers can be, and how flippin' loud they are, it's amazing how those people could somehow miss seeing the giant flying aircraft...

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                            • #15
                              Quoth bhskittykatt View Post
                              No they had two jets and that big...whatever it is.
                              P-3 Orion, which is a US Navy sub-hunter. The "stinger" in the tail is the MAD, Magnetic Anomaly Detector, which shows when there is metal under the plane. It has four turboprop engines, which are effectively propellers driven by jet engines. So it is sorta-kinda a jet...

                              We used to have dozens of these flying over Silicon Valley years ago, but since they moved most operations out of Moffett Field they became much less common.


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