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  • #31
    Quoth Pagan View Post
    And no, no we don't sacrifice people. (Well, except for that one group of Gauls way back when! )
    Not that, you know, we aren't TEMPTED occasionally, but that's just average, every day homicidal urges... i.e. "Ooooh, I want to strangle that idiot!".

    In the interests of full disclosure, some of us (myself included) do use blood in our practices, but it's pretty much always our own, and only a few drops. A diabetic would shed as much in an average day of checking their blood-sugar. Basically, it's either used to make a lasting connection between ourselves and an object (like mixing your blood in with the ocher when you're painting the characters on a set of carved, wooden runes), or to add power to a spell or prayer, which is basically saying "I want this bad enough to bleed for it" to who/whatever you're calling on.
    Last edited by JustADude; 08-07-2007, 07:36 AM.
    ...WHY DO YOU TEMPT WHAT LITTLE FAITH IN HUMANITY I HAVE!?! -- Kalga
    And I want a pony for Christmas but neither of us is getting what we want OK! What you are asking is impossible. -- Wicked Lexi

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    • #32
      I actually have been reading the tracts from that website (thanks for the links, Pedersen and Will-Mun) because up until now, I only ever saw two. I have to agree that several are horribly naive in how they address their topics and present the problem they are designed to cure in such a melodramatic, inaccurate way that a person reading it will smirk and put it down before getting to the message of the tract. The message in almost all of the tracts, however, is the same in that they state that everyone is a sinner in need of salvation and that salvation is very simple to attain. These tracts also carry the message that everyone may repent and receive salvation no matter how sinful they may have been. Many of the tracts address a basic, rather generic topic such as pride and greed and how these prevent people from acknowledging their need for salvation.

      Since the basic teaching of Christianity is that there is only one way for salvation and that all Christians are to reach out and try to share that salvation, I cannot fault whoever writes the tracts for following what his/her religion teaches. Personally, I see nothing hateful in the tracts as their purpose clearly is to save people from things the writer(s) interprets as leading to damnation. NO ONE is being forced to read the tracts and no one's civil or other rights are violated by them. The person finding the tract can throw it away if he/she does not want to read it.

      I just wish the writer(s) would not be so over-the-top in some of the presentations and had more of an accurate, factual story to start some of the tracts. The audience the tracts are suppossed to reach will not listen if it is clear the writer does not understand anything about the topic.
      "Ignorance is no excuse for a law."
      .................................................. ..................- Alfred E. Newman

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      • #33
        Being raised Catholic, it wasn't at all uncommon to come out of church on Sunday morning and find every car in the parking lot peppered with those things. I already have most of them memorized because my parents gave me them to read so we could all laugh at them. So effective

        There was one a while back that's no longer in print (gee, I wonder why), where a guy sexually abused his daughter, until his doctor found out, "scolded" him, then preached the word, and the guy was automatically "saved" and SENT HOME by the doctor to spread the good news to his wife and abused child. I assume that it's no longer in print because, uh, well, hello Captain Obvious...

        The guy who was putting that one on my car windshield was asked nicely to leave. Then I had to chase him off with my Purse O' Doom. (I used to like carrying pounds of change around...) For the record, I normally just ignore preaching types, but without sharing the brunt of the language, this one pushed his luck a little too far. I don't advise chasing them just for the sake of chasing them.

        I wish I still had that one because I'd scan it in...I'm sure I could find it online if I cared to look-but I'm also sure someone else will find it and post it so we may all guffaw.
        "Maybe the problem just went away...maybe it was the magical sniper fairy that comes and gives silenced hollow point rounds to people who don't eat their vegetables."

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        • #34
          I'd like to clear up one thing about those damn tracts. Even though I have the same last name as the publishing company, I'm *not* affiliated with those nutjobs.
          Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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          • #35
            Quoth Will-Mun View Post
            (Which is insulting in itself. DnD players lose characters left and right depending on the DM )
            D&D has NOTHING on Paranoia. You play CLONES, not even originals.

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            • #36
              Psh, you want ultimate messed up and insane Tabletop game? Call of Cthulhu. Literally!

              I have to respect a game in where your character is forced to lose their own sanity to achieve the goal.


              Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
              "How bloody difficult is it to take care of a DVD?"
              ~Me after any time I look at the back of a disc~

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              • #37
                id prefer finding that shit in restrooms where it belongs than having someone roll up with a pamphlet asking "do you want to avoid eternity in hell?" that she found on the CHILDREN'S EASTER DISPLAY.

                and also, this gem.

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                Kim: She's got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

                I'd like to exercise my constitutional right to not give a fuck.

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                • #38
                  Just put some of these in there next to the tracts.

                  http://www.normalbobsmith.com/public...pamphlets.html

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                  • #39
                    I went up to my boyfriend (DM) the other day and asked him why he hadn't shown me the REEEAAL POWER!!! (C) yet.

                    If that's what D&D is all about, then why are my games so lacking!?

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                    • #40
                      Those who have been talking about various RPGs might appreciate this: http://trhickman.com/Intel/Essays/Ethic3.html

                      (Warning-- some religious bias, but probably not enough to annoy anyone other than a devout atheist.) Also, if you ever get a chance to hear Mr. Hickman in person, do so. He does great discussions, panels, and sudden-death D&D.

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                      • #41
                        Quoth Will-Mun View Post
                        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
                        That little Cthulhu emoticon, I'm stealing that. That is awesome on a whole new level, especially since I "worship" Cthulhu. Sadly I can't translate what you said, I'm not too good at their language. The only fiction language I know is Nadsat. 200th Post HOORAH (Told you that I was stealing that lol)
                        It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
                        ~~~H.L. Mencken

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                        • #42
                          Quoth MystyGlyttyr View Post
                          Being raised Catholic, it wasn't at all uncommon to come out of church on Sunday morning and find every car in the parking lot peppered with those things. I already have most of them memorized because my parents gave me them to read so we could all laugh at them. So effective

                          There was one a while back that's no longer in print (gee, I wonder why), where a guy sexually abused his daughter, until his doctor found out, "scolded" him, then preached the word, and the guy was automatically "saved" and SENT HOME by the doctor to spread the good news to his wife and abused child. I assume that it's no longer in print because, uh, well, hello Captain Obvious...

                          The guy who was putting that one on my car windshield was asked nicely to leave. Then I had to chase him off with my Purse O' Doom. (I used to like carrying pounds of change around...) For the record, I normally just ignore preaching types, but without sharing the brunt of the language, this one pushed his luck a little too far. I don't advise chasing them just for the sake of chasing them.

                          I wish I still had that one because I'd scan it in...I'm sure I could find it online if I cared to look-but I'm also sure someone else will find it and post it so we may all guffaw.
                          Behold my Google-Fu:

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                          Page 7-12
                          Page 13-18
                          Page 19-24
                          "You know, there are times when it's a source of personal pride not to be human." - Hobbes

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                          • #43
                            That's disturbing on quite a few levels, since not only is it saying that raping your child is fine as long as you ask for forgiveness as well, it's allowing the incompetance of the doctor, since it's the law to report to the police if you suspect sexual abuse. Frankly, I think that in that case that Police>Jesus. Just my opinion, but I think that that girl would be better off being saved by the Cops than Christ. Just my opinion.
                            It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
                            ~~~H.L. Mencken

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                            • #44
                              -Gags a bit- My gawd... that is the most awful thing I have ever read... Those are THE worst parents in the history of ever! I know Chick Tracts are bad...but MAN, thats a whole new level of messed up.

                              And look how they try to slide in that sexual deviancy and sex crimes evolve from... watching pornography...


                              Quoth Aldous View Post
                              Sadly I can't translate what you said, I'm not too good at their language.
                              "In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming."
                              "How bloody difficult is it to take care of a DVD?"
                              ~Me after any time I look at the back of a disc~

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