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  • ummm..and WHY did you tell us?

    Got this off a friends blog, so yeah it didn't happened to me, I dont' work with/on trains BUT I do think it's a GREAT example of how people are willing to complain about something but when there is a chance they can do the right thing and prevent a problem...they won't!

    "Was working a train from Penrith to the city. Tangara, just after midday, about 300 passengers on board, everything on-time.

    Until we get to Westmead.

    Opened the doors - no worries so far. Passengers in and out. Still all good - we're early, so I hold things for a minute. Close the doors, about to bell the driver -

    and there are about three rail employees up near the drivers compartment giving me the emergency stop signal.

    Oookay. Open the doors. Contact the driver. Whats up?

    Turns out our front pantograph has been just about demolished. A pantograph is the thing on top of the train which touches the 1500 volt overhead wires. Damaging one can be pretty catastrophic - remember the major delays a few weeks ago on the illawarra line? They have a nasty habit of getting caught in the overhead wires and pulling them down.

    Anyway. Made an announcement that we had damage to our power supply and we were currently receiving instructions as to what to do about it. Predictably, a whole heap of passengers alight from the train and crowd around the drivers and guards compartments. At least the station staff were on the ball - they saw me reopen the doors and not close them, and came down pretty quick. On seeing the pantograph at the front (which looked more like a bowl of spaghetti), they got the idea pretty quickly.

    Making things worse was the fact that the other citybound track was closed for the afternoon for minor trackwork (happens a couple of times a week, regular inspection/repair). So only one track was available for city trains - and we had no idea if the overhead power supply had been damaged by our dodgy pantograph.

    We sat there for 20 minutes. Got a call from train control - empty the train, close the doors, go empty to Hornsby at reduced speed. How long, I ask, until the next train? I got the answer . . .

    So, I turn on my external PA - and I just know what the reaction will be.

    "Attention passengers" - as expected, passengers go quiet.
    "Due to the damage sustained to our power supply, this train is terminating here at Westmead" - a collective "oooo", sighs, grumbles, but general acceptance so far.
    Now the fun part.
    "Passengers are advised that because due to concerns that this train may have damaged the overhead wires, the next train is expected to arrive in approximately 25-30 minutes"

    And as one, the crowd looked incredulous, cries of "no way" rent the air, and seemingly everyone reached for their mobile phones.

    After making their day, I then had to walk down the still-kinda-crowded platform to check the train for any passengers who had not yet alighted. Miracle - I wasnt abused. But I did have one lady come up to me:

    "I just wanted to let you know, I caught this train at Mt Druitt, and when it arrived I noticed there was a lot of sparks and fire coming from the front of the train".

    I was stunned. She saw a train that was basically on fire (pantograph failures are pretty spectacular) - and rather than tell the guard or driver, rather than ring the fire department, rather than miss the train - she boarded it! Others would have seen it too, so we travelled 5 stops at least (and skipped another 3) over 20km reaching speeds of 115km/h with 300 people on board and despite all those people on the platforms, noone reported it!!! Train crew cant see that sort of fault from where we sit, the first clue we had was when the electric brake didnt operate on the approach to Westmead (though some passengers also told me at Westmead that the lights had gone out for a while after leaving seven hills).

    What an idiot!

    Anyway. Job done. There were a few trains delayed by 30 minutes and a couple cancelled, but all was basically ok for the afternoon peak. Be interesting to know if there are any irate calls to the media "
    I am evil, I should change my middle name legally TO evil, I'm proud of my evilness! Makes life fun! bwhaha

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    Wow either they where very brave or very stupid.Personally if the form of transportation I am wanting to use is spitting sparks and flame I thin I'm going to call someone or at the very least not get on it.

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    • #3
      Well, playing devil's* advocate, they may not have known who to mention this to.

      Yeah, I just realized how lame that sounds, too.



      * IE, customer's

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      • #4
        Okay, I am basically fearless, and very little phases me.

        But if I am on my way somewhere, and I notice that my chosen form of transportation is, say, ON FIRE!!!, I am NOT getting on said mode of transportation. Call me crazy, but the phrase "fiery wreck" comes to mind and frankly, I do not want that phrase and my name associated with one another. What this woman (and the other people like her) did was not sucky, it was just downright stupid.

        More proof of humanity's certain eventual doom.
        Last edited by Jester; 11-28-2006, 01:53 PM.

        "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
        Still A Customer."

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        • #5
          Quoth Binky View Post
          I was stunned. She saw a train that was basically on fire (pantograph failures are pretty spectacular) - and rather than tell the guard or driver, rather than ring the fire department, rather than miss the train - she boarded it!
          Turbo failures on diesel locomotives can be pretty spectacular as well. I've seen some shots of big 6-axle GE power...with flames shooting out of the exhaust stacks
          Last edited by Ree; 11-06-2008, 10:39 AM.
          Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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          • #6
            I've been in a flaming motorhome before..... Ah, the joys of my family's vacations....

            We had an old Dodge motorhome that had a wooden frame. Somewhere along the trip, Dad or mom must have knocked the exhaust extension off the pipe, so the shortened pipe was now spewing hot exhaust directly onto the frame. Well, it finally reached it's flash point, and we were spewing flames out the side of the motorhome going down I-5. The back end was getting smoky, and truck drivers were honking at us, so I yelled up to dad. His response? "Honey, what are you cooking back there?"
            Once it dawned on him that his wife was sitting next to him, and not burning dinner as usual, he pulled off the highway. Into a GAS STATION. (located in Woodburn, btw, for those of you who appreciate funny stuff like that).
            Fire truck....blah blah blah... It scorched the side up pretty well, but at least it didn't get to the gas or propane tanks That motorhome went away finally, thank god.

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            • #7
              "I just wanted to let you know, I caught this train at Mt Druitt, and when it arrived I noticed there was a lot of sparks and fire coming from the front of the train".
              Just like Jester, I can't help but wonder at that woman's (and presumably, the other passengers) complete and utter lack of self-preservation. Didn't part of her think: "Hey, that's a lot of fire and sparks. Maybe I shouldn't get on this tin tube and travel in it at over 100 miles an hour?"
              I pray for the strength to change what I can, the inability to change what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference -Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes

              Being a pessimist and cynical wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't right so often!

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              • #8
                Somewhat off topic (What? Jester going off on a tangent? There's something different!), I have only ever seen two vehicles on fire. One was a car on the other side of the road as I was driving north out of Chicago. I wished at the time that I had stopped to watch. I got a second chance, though. Some time later, I saw a minivan burning on the side of the road as I was driving south out of (you guessed it) Chicago. I pulled over to watch that one, and saw the back door literally melt right off the vehicle. It was spectacular.

                But what is it about Chicago that they have all these cars on fire? Weird coincidence.

                "The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is
                Still A Customer."

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                • #9
                  Quoth Jester View Post
                  But what is it about Chicago that they have all these cars on fire? Weird coincidence.
                  Have you seen the air there? When you can create art by selectively cleaning parts of an ordinary sidewalk, and get reasonably detailed...

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                  • #10
                    I've seen a few cars on fire around here...mostly old shitbox types that shouldn't be allowed on the roads in the first place Most of them were usually put out before they could do much damage. The worst, was an old pickup that went up in flames on I-79 some months back. At least the driver managed to pull off the highway and exit the vehicle. It was a total loss--it was far enough away from the fire dept, they couldn't get there in time.
                    Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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                    • #11
                      Well I've had a car catch on fire before. It was a Buick Skyhawk that I was moding out. well I'd just replaced the fuel pump and injector and somehow it got wonky. I'm on my way to third shift work and pull out of the driveway. I get about 10-15 feet and the car dies. I crank it over again and nothing. So I pop the hood and get out.

                      Now looking down I see a bright orange glow coming from under the car. Thinking that odd as I didnt have underglows on it yet I walked on up to the hood where when I tried to lift it I suddenly had flames shooting out from under and around the hood. Crud!

                      Long story short by the time the fire dept had gotten there the car was toasted. From the dash forward it was burned and melted. the entire interior was smoke covered and water soaked and just plain trashed as the fire had gotten into the passenger compartment by burning through the firewall and dash. The mag wheels had melted down through the road bed to the dirt below. You could still see the marks for several years until they finally blacktopped over the macadam.

                      The last insult for the night though was the sheriff wouldnt let me drag the car over into the field using the tractor but made us have a tow truck pull it the 100 or so feet into the field at a cost of 80 bucks!

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