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    I interviewed today for an order picker position with Amazon.com. The advertisement I was responding to led me to believe it was a full time temp to hire job.

    My first clue about how things would be going should have been the email they sent stating I would be turned away without "proof of education". Wait, what? I lost my diploma ages ago during a move, and the school is long gone (small private school 650 miles away). Besides, surely someone in their mid 30s with a long, well documented work history has a GED or otherwise graduated, right? Oh, I'd be proven wrong soon.

    The email also said the place was in the middle of nowhere on a dead end road, and also said I should refrain from using Mapquest or a GPS device to find the place (and went on to say if I did use a GPS, to put in a different city entirely). I ignored that and used a GPS and found my way right to their door. No dead end road anywhere near the building, it's very much NOT in the middle of nowhere (it's in an extremely busy industrial area), and hey, my GPS shaved off what I would estimate to be at least 15 minutes.

    My appointment was at 3:30. I showed up a little before 3:15, signed in at the security desk, and sat down with several other people who were also there for a 3:30 appointment. Great, group interviews, I've seen that before in call centers and other high turnover jobs. We all sit down and BS a little bit. Finally a few minutes before 4, someone wanders up from the back. "Are you guys here for the 3:30?". We nod. The lady immediately gets bitchy and tells us we're late and they took the 3:30 group back at 3:00. I really wanted to scream Then why the fuck did you tell me my interview was at 3:30 you vapid bitch?!. The email even stated to be there no later than 3:30.

    We shuffle into a big meeting room. There's 2 other applicants filling out paperwork. As we're sitting down, they hand me a thick stack of papers to fill out. Then they start telling everyone how we're supposed to sign our names. Where to sign. How many times. Shit, I must have walked into a Kindergarten class, right? Wait, no... these are adults. Then they give us a dire warning. You see, if we make a mistake.. even a tiny mistake.. we can't scratch it out. No, we have to re-do the entire stack of papers.

    I have to fill it out 3 times. 15 pages, 3 times. The first time, because I accidentally wrote the wrong date (my bad). The second time, because... get this. They didn't like the way I write my 8's. When I write an 8, I leave an open loop at the top right. In 33 years, nobody has ever had an issue with that until today. Apparently, their HR people are incapable of reading an open loop 8. Therefore, instead of being able to do the sensible thing and use a tiny bit of ink to close the loop, they wanted me to fill the whole thing out again. They also made a big show of handing me a bottle of (generic) white-out. At least it matched the generic pens. You'd think a huge multinational company could afford name brand office supplies.

    Finally, they tell me "Oh by the way, this is a seasonal job lasting until Christmas, and it has mandatory overtime, you'll be working at least 60 hours a week, probably closer to 100". ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!? The OT doesn't bother me, if they ask nicely. I don't do the mandatory shit unless I really like you. And I REALLY don't do seasonal jobs unless it's something I enjoy. Order picking in a freezing warehouse is not something I enjoy. I also really dislike drug testing in general, I consider it to be an invasion of my privacy... I can tolerate pre employment testing, but being threatened with weekly tests?

    The best part: they asked why I didn't bring my high school diploma with me. This is when I realize they're serious. I tell them it got lost well over a decade ago, they say that's fine, I can have the school fax it. I try to explain that I went to a small private school that no longer exists. Nope, ain't happening. I can easily prove that I have some college under my belt, and I've worked jobs that normally require at least a bachelors degree. Nope, they want a copy of my diploma, and would I be able to provide my senior year transcript as well?

    Seriously? You want.. proof that I graduated from high school, even though you were probably in diapers when I started high school?

    I've had some bad interviews. This wasn't an interview, this was a shakedown. A shakedown where I lost about 2 hours of time that I'll never get back, and $2.55 in tolls. Not to mention the gas to get there (2 counties over).
    Last edited by bean; 11-20-2010, 02:46 AM.

  • #2
    What odds do you think that they'd find a few things to withhold from your first paycheck, if you took the job?

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    • #3
      you school board from the area should be able to provide you with a copy of your highschool diplomia. The BF had to provide a copy of his (his original is framed) and his school told him to call the school board for a copy as they dont provide them.
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      • #4
        Jeez, they don't want much, do they? Did you have to sacrifice one of your fingers and sign over your soul as well?!

        I know that in a job-scarce economy, employers can afford to be picky, but they shouldn't be flat-out dictators. I hope you told them where to cram their attitudes. Life is stressful enough, you don't need to put up with that nonsense.

        I really, realy hope your next job interview is with a sane company. (or at least, less insane.)
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        • #5
          If that's what the "interview" was like, I'd hate to see what you'll encounter when you start working there.

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          • #6
            I would of told them to cram it sideways up their ass and walked out. Amazon.com? More like amazon.con!

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            • #7
              I probably would have walked out when I was told I was "late", showing up fifteen minutes earlier than scheduled, honestly. I understand jobs are tough to find right now, though.

              I also hate misleading job ads. I remember once I applied for an open position in the electronics department of a major nationwide retailer. I already had a couple years electronics sales experience at that point, so I figured I'd be a good candidate. They called me to set up an appointment, after I did a lengthy online application. I was then told "Oh, we have no openings in electronics...you'd be working in jewelry!" OK, um...I know nothing about jewelery and that's not what I applied for. I told him, "I guess I won't take that interview then. Thanks."

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              • #8
                It's not too surprising. Amazon is essentially the online equivalent of Wallyworld.

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                • #9
                  Quoth NateTheChops View Post
                  It's not too surprising. Amazon is essentially the online equivalent of Wallyworld.
                  I have to admit this is news to me......I had no idea they were that bad.....I order stuff from there all the time too...although they tend to be used items from individual sellers selling thru Amazon's page.

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                  • #10
                    Specifically, what isn't surprising to me is the fact that a company that works on the scale that Amazon doe would have to hire a lot of people for the seasonal shift. To get the orders out in a timely fashion, they'll tell people anything to get them to show up for the interview and quickly weed out any potential whistle blowers by either confounding the hell out of them or stopping them at the gate.

                    Then what they're left with are desperate employees who will look the other way so long as they get a handful of coal to keep themselves and their family warm through the winter months.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Kiwi View Post
                      you school board from the area should be able to provide you with a copy of your highschool diplomia. The BF had to provide a copy of his (his original is framed) and his school told him to call the school board for a copy as they dont provide them.
                      Ah, you would think that, wouldn't you?

                      The boyfriend's school lost all of their records at the time of the Northridge quake. There are no copies or backups. The best anyone calling the school can get is, "Oh, yeah, as far as we know, he graduated." Fun times.

                      You know, this is the perfect sort of thing to post up at Planet Feedback or the like. Let the company (and the rest of the world) know just how badly they treat potential hires.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth bean View Post
                        My appointment was at 3:30. I showed up a little before 3:15, signed in at the security desk, and sat down with several other people who were also there for a 3:30 appointment. Great, group interviews, I've seen that before in call centers and other high turnover jobs. We all sit down and BS a little bit. Finally a few minutes before 4, someone wanders up from the back. "Are you guys here for the 3:30?". We nod. The lady immediately gets bitchy and tells us we're late and they took the 3:30 group back at 3:00. I really wanted to scream Then why the fuck did you tell me my interview was at 3:30 you vapid bitch?!. The email even stated to be there no later than 3:30.
                        This part just broke my brain.
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                        • #13
                          High school diploma?

                          Last time I was asked about that was when I was applying for junior college. Once I had even a small amount of junior college under my belt (it was just a 2 year place, associates degrees) no one ever asked me about high school.

                          I don't have my high school diploma, I don't know where to get it, and no one has ever asked me for it. Not even colleges have asked me for it! They just asked for transcripts.

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                          • #14
                            Transcripts? What is this word you speak?

                            I couldn't get that or a copy of my diploma at this point. My grade school AND my HS both closed down years ago. So did the HS my sisters went to. I think my diploma made it to the new house when we moved, but who knows. I haven't seen it for years. I doubt the local school board could find anything, either. They usually can't find their own butts without a map and you spot them one cheek.
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                            • #15
                              The diploma thing is stupid, but sadly not uncommon. My husband applied for a job at Coke and was honest on the application and at the interview that he had not graduated from high school. He was told that it was not a problem and in fact was offered the job contingent on the background check. Guess what? He was not given the job because the school system in Indiana had no record of his going there...for middle school!!! So they were okay with no high school diploma but no middle school, no job.

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