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  • The words "Pot", "Kettle" and "Black", spring to mind...

    This upset me at the time, but I look back at it and laugh now. This was an experience with a Sucky Nurse.

    I don't know how much I weigh. I'm not overweight though, and people often disbelieve the estimate I give them. I look slimmer than I am. But my rule is (after years of watching the scales constantly and seeing them fluctuate madly) is- go by how you feel. I exercise daily, I belly dance...I'm not in great shape, but I'm not a slob either.

    I estimate I weigh about 147lbs. Not lightweight, but not fat either. At all. This is 10stone 7lbs. And its only an estimate because I know my weight fluctuates.

    I was 19 and on the Pill, and my doctor requires I have a BP check about once a year to renew my prescription, due to a DVT family history and the slight increased risk of DVT when on the Pill (although the risk is higher if you get pregnant, so you have to weigh it up ). I needed a checkup and arranged one with the nurse one morning before work.

    This nurse was a middle-aged woman who I wouldn't describe exactly as fat, but definately overweight. And definately bigger than me. Heavy set. And for some reason she wanted to check my weight (I've never had this checked since).

    I now joke that I don't believe she was even a real woman because she said some things no other woman I have ever known have ever said:

    1) She told me there was no need to remove my shoes before getting on the scales!! What!? All women know you need to be completely naked and not even wearing spectacles or earrings when on the scales! Joking aside, everyone knows you take your shoes off, and when you consider I was wearing a heavy pair of Doc Martens....I just said "Err...yes I do, do you know how much these weigh?" She acted like the removal of my shoes was completely unecessary.

    My weight came in at 10st 4lbs, or 144lbs. This was a pleasant surprise to me because the previous week I had weighed 146lbs, and I was on my period, during which, as a lot of ladies experience, I bloat and tend to gain weight. You know, water retention etc. So when she said 144lbs, I said, happily, "Oh!"

    This was the suck part.

    "Yes," she said with a sneer, "it is a little heavy, isn't it?"

    (Hence the pot, kettle, black remark.)

    (And this is where unwomanly-thing-to-say-part-2 comes in)

    2) "Well, I'm on period at the moment, so I find my weight changes..." I began.

    "Yes, you do tend to lose a little weight on your period," she says dismissively.



    You know, I'm sure some people do experience that, but I've not met a single one who does. Every woman I have ever known has experienced slight weight gain during their period. This nurse said that the loss of blood (which you all know is something about the equivalent of what, a teaspoon or 2?) is what causes the weight loss.

    I should have said: "You're not a woman really, are you? Or even a nurse! Not at all, I think you are an imposter!"

    Instead, being young, naive and confused, I became very upset by this woman who had pretty much just called me fat

    Nowadays, I look back and laugh. This nurse was very rude to me, and I don't know why. It was totally uncalled for, and it was very much not her place to make a comment on my weight at any rate- Dad said, when i told him later, I should have looked her up and down and said "Don't you think thats the pot calling the kettle black, love?" in a billigerent tone ^^;; But nowadays, I wonder if perhaps she was just determined to make me feel fatter than I was. I don't know, but perhaps (I suspect this), she saw a young slim-looking teenager enter the room, was feeling bitter about herself for whatever reason and just decided it would cheer herself up if she battered my self esteem and try and make me feel fat.

    All I have to say on this sort of attitude (which I have encountered in other circumstances) is this- its not my fault you are fat. Do what you want with your body- is yours, all yours. If you don't like something about it, change it. Don't blame other people for your imperfections. If you want to lose weight, do something about it, rather than just make thinner people feel bad about themselves.

    I don't make appointments with the nurse anymore, I just see the doctor.

  • #2
    Lose? Ohh, contrare! You gain water weight! >_> besides, no comments on weight unless it's crazy different than last time or ... uh... you're massively skinny or obese?? You should have said what you wanted to! And how ... here in the states, the nurse is the person that gets your basics, then shows you to the consultation room. How can you not see the nurse? They're typically attached to the doctor.
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    • #3
      For what it's worth, every time I've ever had my weight taken, at several different hospitals/clinics in different states, and all by female nurses/nurses aids, I've ALWAYS asked if I should take my shoes off, and every single one of them has always said not to bother.

      Anyway, she was horribly rude to you. I hope you reported her to your doctor or to the director of the facility.

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      • #4
        Quoth teh_blumchenkinder View Post
        Lose? Ohh, contrare! You gain water weight! >_> besides, no comments on weight unless it's crazy different than last time or ... uh... you're massively skinny or obese?? You should have said what you wanted to! And how ... here in the states, the nurse is the person that gets your basics, then shows you to the consultation room. How can you not see the nurse? They're typically attached to the doctor.
        In the Uk you tend to see just the doctor, unless you are having blood taken, pill checks (just a bunch of questions and a quick check of the blood pressure) or other regular checks that don't really require a Doc, well thats how it works in my practice anyway.

        Doctor appointments are if you are sick/changing meds/need meds reviewing. They have all the notes on their system and (usually check them just before they come and get you).

        Reptionists do the appointment booking and making sure you are booked as arrived. I've been going to the same practice since I was 2.
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        • #5
          Receptionists/secretaries also schedule the appointments, get insurance info, call you to remind you, that sort of thing. Nurses pull the charts, get temperatures, blood pressure, weight, height, that sort of thing; then they stick you in a room and go tell the doctor you're there. They also do stuff other than direct examination of the patient, which is left for the doctor. I had my blood drawn by specific nurses, and yet I had a h.pylori quick-test that zapped my finger for blood done by the nurse. I don't know what else they do in the states in regards to patient appointment things that are considered 'basic.' Thanks for the info, tho.
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          "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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          • #6
            You SHOULD take your shoes off; they throw off the weight. And you should empty your pockets of wallet, cellphones, and keys.

            It adds up. A pound or two can make a huge difference if you have something like heart failure and the amount of fluid you retain is an issue.

            A weight should always been taken when you see your regular doctor. Every visit. Regardless of why you are there. It establishes a track of weight gain and loss that could be important later.

            Many women retain water during their period. It's a common problem. The amount varies, but most women will gain 1-3 pounds of water weight right before their period starts, and lose it when the period ends. It's the water retention weight you are losing, not water from blood loss. Most women will lose about 50ml of blood during their entire period, which is about 2 1/2 tablespoons. It looks like more than it really is.

            The nurse was very rude. She clearly was in a rush to get through the process, and the OP was impeding her with small talk and wanting to take off her shoes.
            They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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            • #7
              All that should matter to a nurse/doctor regarding weight is whether you are trending towards healthy, trending towards unhealthy, or stable (given water weight & other minor variations).

              Okay. Correction. There may well be specific conditions which require closer monitoring than that. But as a general rule, that's how I see it. The first time you have your weight taken for a particular set of medical records should do nothing but establish a starting point. It's the overall trend that matters, IMO.
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              • #8
                As BardMaiden said, UK practices are a little different. At this current practice, I have only seen a nurse twice- once for that checkup, and once to have the meningitis jab (for some reason my parents opted me out when this was given at school...I have no idea why, but when we joined this new practice, my parents changed their mind and I got the jab). I usually only see my doctor. Actually, up until now, I have managed to time my appointments so that a BP check can coincide with an appointment for another problem (ear infection etc).

                Panacea, oh yes, turn those pockets out! XD I don't actually weigh myself anymore, I find scale-watching utterly depressing and I know I'm in ok shape, so I just go by how I feel now, but I always weighed myself in my underwear, first thing in the morning.

                Sadly, I didn't complain. At the time, a family friend (who was clinically obese) had been told he needed to lose weight by his doctor, and although a lot of people seemed angry by the doctor's comments, the friend was overweight and I just assumed that medical professionals had a right to say this sort of thing. I was young and naive (I was also in a job where I was being treated as second-class for being female at the time!) and didn't really realise that I didn't have to put up with a lot of the crap I was putting up with at the time! But lets just say, I know better now. And if nothing else, this little story gives me chuckles (although confused ones, I still have no idea why the nurse insisted the blood loss causes weight loss, as Panacea pointed out, its like a couple of teaspoons!).

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                • #9
                  Wanna hear something funny, albeit slightly unrelated? The nurse who does the weight check/blood pressure and stuff on me in my primary care dr's office now lives two floors above me in my apartment complex. And the dr office is right across the street.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth MaggieTheCat View Post
                    For what it's worth, every time I've ever had my weight taken, at several different hospitals/clinics in different states, and all by female nurses/nurses aids, I've ALWAYS asked if I should take my shoes off, and every single one of them has always said not to bother.
                    And the nurses at our doctor's office always have us take off our shoes. Lately they haven't been asking, but I assume it's either because it's sandals (and the nurses assume the weight of those is negligible), or because I've gotten in the habit of immediately slipping my shoes loose as soon as I sit in the chair, so I'm one step ahead of them.

                    When I go for my regular prenatal appointments (since I'm currently expecting) and my routine OB/GYN checkups, the nurse takes weight and blood pressure, then sees me to the exam room. The nurse may also be in charge of collecting any urine samples, but at the health center I go to at least, they have a laboratory for more specific tests such as the pregnancy glucose test or any blood drawing (which is done by trained phlebotomists). The doctors are reserved for the actual examinations themselves. Same for my children's pediatric appointments; nurse takes quick vitals, then lets the doctor know we're ready for the actual appointment, and the nurse then comes back in to do any shots necessary.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                      As BardMaiden said, UK practices are a little different. At this current practice, I have only seen a nurse twice- once for that checkup, and once to have the meningitis jab (for some reason my parents opted me out when this was given at school...I have no idea why, but when we joined this new practice, my parents changed their mind and I got the jab). I usually only see my doctor. Actually, up until now, I have managed to time my appointments so that a BP check can coincide with an appointment for another problem (ear infection etc).
                      Only times I've seen a nurse at the practice/s I've been to are:

                      -Blood test (she was awesome with this because I'd never had blood drawn before)
                      -To get a splinter taken out of my finger because it had gotten under the skin and I didn't believe it necessitated a hospital visit. (this was at the uni, the nurse present provides First Aid)
                      -To get the stitch removed after my Implanon was inserted.
                      -After a meltdown in the doctors office at my current practice.
                      -Not at the practice, but every time I've had a jab, its been done by the local council nurse.

                      For EVERYTHING else, I've always seen a doctor. My mum decided to get me and my sister immunised together for the MMR jab (the schools here do an immunization program, around that particular time for Year 3 students, the MMR jab was on the list) since my sister was due to start school later that year and needed her 4 year old immunisations. The doctor did that one. I remember funnily enough that I winced just a bit, my sister threw a MASSIVE fit and was nervous as hell. The doctor gave us both a little bug with sticky feet after that.
                      Last edited by fireheart; 09-01-2011, 12:42 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                        But nowadays, I wonder if perhaps she was just determined to make me feel fatter than she was.
                        Fixed that for you...

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                          I don't actually weigh myself anymore, I find scale-watching utterly depressing and I know I'm in ok shape, so I just go by how I feel now, but I always weighed myself in my underwear, first thing in the morning.
                          My doctor's practice is large enough to have nurses, not just a receptionist. (Many practices here tend to be small.)

                          Anyway, the nurses at this practice tend to give immunisations, take blood pressure, take weight and waist measurements and so forth.

                          Rabbit, I don't personally keep track of my weight. But I let my doctor (or rather, the nurses) do it. I don't want to know the numbers, but they are understanding about that and let me know if I'm trending towards healthy (or not).
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                          1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                          2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                          3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                          4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                          "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                            I don't actually weigh myself anymore, I find scale-watching utterly depressing and I know I'm in ok shape, so I just go by how I feel now
                            and THAT is a healthy attitude
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                            • #15
                              How clothing fits can also be a good guide.

                              Once you're at a healthy weight, get a semi-fitted outfit - that's one that's loose enough to allow for natural variation due to water weight or seasonal variation, but not so loose that you won't notice your fat/other tissue ratio going awry.

                              Make it an outfit you love, so you'll wear it regularly.

                              If you notice it consistently being too loose or too tight, go see your doctor and get assessed. Note: too tight could be because you've put on muscle, especially if you've been exercising. Putting on muscle is GOOD! If you've put on muscle, you won't need to make any changes other than getting a new semi-fitted favourite outfit.

                              I actually have a collection of semi-fitted clothing. Mostly because that's my favourite type of fit and it flatters me. So I can always go by how my clothes fit. That said, I use my doctor & the scales as a backup. They'll alert me if I need to be alerted.
                              Seshat's self-help guide:
                              1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                              2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                              3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                              4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                              "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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