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  • #31
    Quoth Geek King View Post
    Such things need a real diagnosis to confirm what is causing the symptoms.
    I've got a Speculator in my dash.
    ...
    When you're nearly hit by a yuppie little twit
    With his godforsaken noggin on the phone,
    Swervin' in your lane goin' ninety in the rain,
    In a cloud of Amaretto and cologne,

    You feel the anger in you go to work.
    Maybe now's the time to go berserk.
    Before you pop a vessel, let the Speculator wrestle
    With another way of lookin' at the jerk.

    [Maybe he's a shrink with a patient on the brink
    And he's rushing there while tryin' to talk him down.]
    Maybe he's aware there's a toxin in the air
    And he's off to warn the people of the town.

    [Someone in the family could be sick.]
    His daughter hit his mother with a brick.
    [His dog has got the rabies] or his wife is having babies,
    (Both Though the odds are in your favor he's a prick.
    ...
    I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
    Procrastination: Forward planning to insure there is something to do tomorrow.
    Derails threads faster than a pocket nuke.

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    • #32
      Quoth dalesys View Post
      I've got a Speculator in my dash.
      ...
      When you're nearly hit by a yuppie little twit
      [...]


      My name is Geek King, and I support the quoted post.
      The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
      "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
      Hoc spatio locantur.

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      • #33
        Quoth Syriilord View Post
        Perhaps, but IIRC Munchausens is more about deliberately harming yourself in some fashions as opposed to simply faking symptoms, but IANAP (I Am Not A Psychiatrist)
        It involves deliberately harming oneself, but there's a goal to the harm. It's more than just attention. These people build their whole pyscho-social selves around getting that attention; it's their whole reason for being. If they don't get the attention, their sense of self collapses, and they may escalate the behavior to get the satisfaction they crave.

        It's quite a bit more serious than the typical drama queen because these people have real symptoms . . . artificially manufactured, but real. Untreated, they can lead to long term injury or death. That's what makes Munchausen's by proxy so dangerous, especially when the object of the manufactured symptoms is a child.

        Simply faking symptoms is malingering . . . and again, there's an objective goal in the mind of the malingerer. It may be financial, social, or legal.

        Hypochondriacs are also different. The client really believes they are sick, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. Symptoms will change to fit the perceived disease the client believes they have. However, they will not make themselves sick . . . they believe they already are sick. Unfortunately, some do indeed turn out to BE sick with a subtle form of something, which creates a very embarrassing situation for care providers.
        They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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        • #34
          Her comes Kisa with examples!

          Faker: will throw themselves to the floor and flail around to make it look like they are seizing to get attention.

          Munchausens: will self inject with insulin to force their body to seize to get attention from medical workers and friends/family.

          Faker: is basically a little kid wanting attention.

          Munchausens: experienced an emotional trauma earlier in life such as neglect or abuse or mental illness and now needs to physically harm themselves to get attention to "fill the void" so to speak.
          Answers: $1
          Correct Answers: $2
          Answers that require thought: $5
          Dumb looks are still free.

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          • #35
            Quoth Kisa View Post
            Her comes Kisa with examples!

            Faker: will throw themselves to the floor and flail around to make it look like they are seizing to get attention.

            Munchausens: will self inject with insulin to force their body to seize to get attention from medical workers and friends/family.

            Faker: is basically a little kid wanting attention.

            Munchausens: experienced an emotional trauma earlier in life such as neglect or abuse or mental illness and now needs to physically harm themselves to get attention to "fill the void" so to speak.
            Well, not exactly. The Faker may not just want attention. He may want more. For example, one of my old ERs had a well known frequent flyer who faked seizures (and had a real seizure disorder) with the purpose of getting "3 hots and a cot," from the hospital.

            The Munchhausen's may not have experienced any such trauma. Many of these people have no discernible reason that explains their behavior.
            They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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