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  • Fresh start- I quit therapy...

    I wanted to make a post about this partly because I'm feeling quite good about the decision I made, but it ties in with the sucky therapy posts I made previously.

    Some of you may remember that I was diagnosed with depression and global anxiety back in May but it took nearly 2 months for me to even be spoken to anyone at the "talking service" I was referred to, and I bitched about that on here^^;; . I had an incompetent girl on the phone just sort of um-and-ah her way through a couple of 15 minute phone calls before I made a complaint to my GP, stating that I did not feel that the "sessions" were at all helpful and wanted face-to-face therapy with someone who knew what they were talking about (this girl was stumped when one technique she suggested didn't work and wanted to give up, phoned up late for our phone appointments, misplaced my notes, "diagnosed" me as OCD when I didn't even score high enough on the test etc...).

    I want to mention here...I definately made a complaint to my GP but he acted like it wasn't a complaint and only a request for different treatment. It wasn't that I wasn't taken seriously, so it seemed to me, as much as it seemed almost as if no one wanted to hear anything negative about the only therapy program in my region (it turns out it was either this iTalk service, or go to the actual nut house, thats all the help you get around here! I was shocked! I always thought southern England had relatively good health services...). This may not seem relevant now, but it will come back up later.

    Long story short, I saw someone in town for about 2 or 3 sessions, I can't remember exactly how many, between August and September. She was actually good, and gave me helpful leaflets and advice. I think some people would say its not real therapy, but it definately did help. The final session however never took place...I didn't know at the time, but there was an oil spill on the motorway that day that halted traffic, so I was left waiting at my appointment for a full hour before I decided to just call it quits. When I found out it was because she had been in the jam I decided to give it another go, but I never spoke to her again. She left me a message saying she felt I should move onto Cognitive Behavourial therapy.

    Turns out, however, the waiting list wasn't a few weeks like was implied. I didn't hear from anyone again until the end of November...and during that time...

    I posted in Sightings I was semi-attacked by an aggressive dog in public, and then verbally abused by his owner. In the weeks immediately following that incident, I found myself TERRIFIED of dogs and having panic attacks in public. Shortly prior to that incident, I thought I had lost an item of sentimental value on my way to work, tried to find it, nearly got hit by a car and then had the worst public panic attack I've ever had. During this time I was also having horrible nightmares- one night I had 2 nightmares back-to-back about going to the dentist, which is one of my biggest problems at the moment (even a checkup induces a panic attack, fortunately my dentist is very sympathetic). I was having nightmares frequently, nervous and teary over tiny things...

    And finally, just as I was saying that I was going to contact iTalk and ask them what the hell was going on, I get a letter from them- they had "booked" an appointment for me that not only clashed with my work hours but also made sure that my appointment was miles away.

    Now, I don't drive. I walk or use public transport. And the place they wanted me to haul my ass to is a long, expensive bus-journey away. They wanted me to fit in this exspensive little adventure weekly for about 2 months...now they knew I worked in retail due to me telling them and they wanted me to do this during the fucking christmas period?

    I was livid for several reasons. One, assuming I would just go wherever they told me to. If you drive, the town this was held in (I'll call W) isn't far, but only if you drive. The return fare on the bus is actually more expensive then a return fare into the nearest major city. Second, they didn't ask if this was ok, they just booked it and expected me to be ok with it, despite having a job. 3- the therapist in question actually works part of the week at a facility literally doors away from my place of employment, but they figured it more appropriate to send me off to W and fuck the expenses?!

    So i TRIED phoning them (I never seem to get through to any of these twats on the phone) and left a message stating that I needed to speak about the appointment as the time and location were both very inconvenient to me, and (and this took me quite a bit of courage to actually say this) that I've been extremely unhappy with the service up until now and I would like someone to call me please.

    Turns out my message got "cut off". Maybe. I got a letter a few days later asking what was wrong, and I called them again in the direct line. I finally actually got to talk to the therapist.

    And she was crap.

    Don't get me wrong, I was perfectly polite and civil through all this. In fact maybe thats why they ignored me in a way. It took a lot of guts for me to say to them I was unhappy with them. I said to her that I didn't think it was right they had assumed I would just able to do any date or time they chose regardless of my work or circumstances, that W was just too far away for someone with no car and little money to spend on buses, and that I had felt let down by the service. I told her that I was left to my own devices for 2 months and that during that time my panic attacks got worse, my nightmares more prolific, and didn't know who to contact. I told her that in all honesty I felt I knew enough about what was making me tick and making me nervous to get on with it and that I wanted to quit...I felt all the numerous problems and hiccups were stressing me out and making me frustrated, the information the second girl had given me had been helpful enough for me to think my own behaviour through, but while I had been waiting around waiting for them (her, this therapist) to come and help me, I had been left isolated, stuck and more scared than ever. So I was quitting because I felt it was going to be better for me in the long run to try and tackle things head on, logically, than wait for some experts to get round to me whenever they felt bothered.

    Yes I said that.

    All she heard- and she actually repeated this back to me- was that I was now going to end the therapy as I felt I had made enough progress on my own.

    Yep. she said that.

    It wasn't hundred percent wrong...but it wasn't the truth either. I had just told her that her services and her colleague's services had been inadequate and that I was basically qutting as i felt getting on with it myself would be better than waiting for them to remember me, and she heard none of the complaint, none of the negativity.



    BUT...

    the happy ending is...

    I am feeling much better.

    My depression is under much better control. I don't need medication, I don't need SH- from time to time I feel down and I just say "its ok, it's just my down time, it'll be better in a few days" and I distract myself.

    I don't get as nervous as I used to, or if I do, I just face it head on. I'm phoning the dentist tomorrow for a checkup. I still get pyschosymatic pain and it scares me, but I'm going anyway.

    I used to be terrified of trains...something I've been working on for a few years. I was on the Tube last night, in London for New Years, and after getting off at Victoria I realised I hadn't been nervous once at all!

    (Still didn't like the teeny platform I was on next, but hey, thats what hugging the wall is for eh?)

    I haven't had a nightmare in ages.

    In fact a few nights ago, I had a dream I woke up on the ledge of a tall skyscraper type building, with suspended railway tracks weaving through the buildings. I was terrified of falling off the edge and crying. then someone told me it was ok to jump down. I had a closer look and instead of a plummeting drop there was a wide track less than a couple of feet down, safe to walk on, so I climbed down and walked away...

    Me- 1, iTalk-0

    I am still really disappointed by how crap the service was, but in a way it motivated me to sort myself out. I actually suspect that the majority of people in my area using the service may be...ahem...the type kinda faking to get signed off work and stuff....<.<...

  • #2
    Good to hear that you have got things back on track for the time being.

    Not every therapist will work for you. I went through a few before the one I see now. It wasn't so much that they were crap, it was more that I would go there, talk and then after the session, think "OK, I don't need to go anymore."
    The best professors are mad scientists! -Zoom

    Now queen of USSR-Land...

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    • #3
      I'm glad you're doing better with the advice from the second person and your own hard work. Kuddos on facing your fears and going on anyway.

      The service you got from the iTalk people does sound horrible, but I'm not surprised. I've seen articles about how psychologists in America are massively overburdened with not enough psychologists and too many people with need for them. I suspect the same would be true in England, which leads to the psychologists trying to discourage as many seekers as possible and not caring too much to retain people. It's a bad situation, unfortunately.

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      • #4
        There is only one problem left that needs to be addressed and in honesty, if my doctor isn't willing to help me out on this one, I am a bit fucked...I did bring it up constantly in the "therapy" but I have extreme anxiety over anything that may include pregnancy, internal exams, anything intimate. Can't explain it really. Once it was established that I wasn't ever sexually abused or assaulted, it was like they gave up trying to figure up what makes me some damn scared about the whole thing. Fortunately, one of my GPs maybe willing to take it slow with me as she herself has admitted (probably very irresponsibly so) to refusing cervical smears now (PAP smears outside of the UK). I turn 25 this year, the year when they "invite" you to come for your first one and I won't lie...I'm shitting bricks. The only thing that makes me feel better about it is that you can wear a skirt and that they use plastic intruments now. So on that one, I am essentially alone. Its very hard to get anyone to take tokophobia and related issues seriously at any rate. I only know one other female person who hasn't actually scoffed at the idea and she turns out to have some form of it herself.

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        • #5
          The problem you describe isn't that uncommon, unfortunately. And it's treatable with the right therapy.

          I'm so sorry to hear your area doesn't have suitable resources. Living in the US, I have no idea what options you have in the UK.

          It sounds to me you still need help from a therapist . . . if you could find an actual therapist.

          However, taking control is a positive step and it seems to have energized you. So build on that!

          Best wishes.
          They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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          • #6
            You aren't the only one who is afraid of gyno exams. Trust me. My first one was with a doctor who couldn't understand why a 24 year old virgin raised to think sex was a horrible thing could possibly be nervous about things like that. Her advice? "Get a boyfriend." I never went back to her.
            When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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            • #7
              Quoth MoonCat View Post
              You aren't the only one who is afraid of gyno exams. Trust me. My first one was with a doctor who couldn't understand why a 24 year old virgin raised to think sex was a horrible thing could possibly be nervous about things like that. Her advice? "Get a boyfriend." I never went back to her.
              Good. That was horrible advice.

              Although I will say, my problems with gyno exams went away after I got married . . . .
              They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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              • #8
                I've asked the same question regarding internal exams, so check my thread out for it.
                The best professors are mad scientists! -Zoom

                Now queen of USSR-Land...

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                • #9
                  Fireheart, I visited your topic, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way...

                  "Get a boyfriend"? Wow, very helpful advice....

                  Well....I called the dentist today (I forgot yesterday ^^;; ). Booked for my checkup next week. I told the lady on the phone I have anxiety and she said it was fine, she'd put a little note on my file so they would know about it, and thats fine. I told her I tend to bring in cuddly toys and she said thats fine too. I'm determined to not have a panic attack this time, but I know I'll be scared so my bunny is coming with me @.@

                  Is it a bit wrong that when I saw "IV Sedation" on their website, I was actually thrilled? If I ever actually need anything done again, sure I'm not big on needles into veins, but I think being knocked out for the whole thing might make me feel better about drills in my teeth and stuff XD Ok I know its not what you should expect, but its a back up plan if nothing else ^^;;

                  In the meantime, I'll just keep flossing and hope the past years improved dental routine will have helped...

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                  • #10
                    Oral benzodiazepines (Ativan, Valium, Xanax etc.) work wonders for this sort of thing.

                    I have a major needle-phobia (to the extent that I'd rather get drilled on with no anaesthesia rather than get stuck), but if I get to the lab pre-loaded on Valium, I have no problem with it... I remember thinking last time, "Oh, so this must be how everybody else feels when they get blood drawn. Wow." I was expecting to freak out, and was pleasantly surprised to find that I didn't.

                    Regarding the dentist, if you can stand the needle, I think you definitely should let them knock you out. (Obviously that won't work for me, because it's the needle itself that bothers me.) No reason to make yourself suffer if there's an alternative.

                    Oh, and congratulations on pulling yourself out of the pit by your own bootstraps. I mean that seriously; there aren't many folks who can do that successfully.

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                    • #11
                      I'm not a huge fan of needles (I've not yet had blood-drawing and I won't lie...not looking forward to that...) but I can handle vaccines and things...and I think if they were to numb the area of entry and then I looked away I would soon stop caring about it XD

                      In all honesty I used to be fine with dentisty things (LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU DON'T LIKE DENTISTY THINGS ETC). I had a couple of minor fillings when I was younger than about a year ago I went in and they said I needed a deep one. The dentist said a couple of things that made me worry that my tooth was going to be pulled, so I turned up for the appointment as a nervous wreck (above all, I don't want ANYTHING removed, I didn't even like it when they had to pull a trapped milk tooth out). Well, the dentist numbed it, but she hit the nerves with the needle as she did so, sending pain along my chin...nothing severe but in my state of nervousness it was way worse. Every sound tensed me up. I made whiny noises even when I was uncomfortable. As she cleaned the cavity there was some pain...pain I could have handled if I hadn't been such a wreck. But I squeaked and squinnied. I was shaking afterwards. Ever since, I get psychosymatic pains in my mouth if I think about dentisty things (I know its psychosymatic because at my next checkup the dentist said everything was fine and he was happy with it all...and the pain goes away if I forget about whats worrying me).

                      I had always been a nervy, worrisome character before that, but shortly afterwards I was diagnosed with anxiety and I've been a bit worse ever since. But I felt pleased with myself with phoning in...now its done, i WILL go. Not to mention I changed some of my diet and started flossing daily and cleaning my gums so things have got to be better now XD

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                        I have extreme anxiety over anything that may include pregnancy, internal exams, anything intimate. Can't explain it really. Once it was established that I wasn't ever sexually abused or assaulted, it was like they gave up trying to figure up what makes me some damn scared about the whole thing. Fortunately, one of my GPs maybe willing to take it slow with me as she herself has admitted (probably very irresponsibly so) to refusing cervical smears now (PAP smears outside of the UK).
                        Good grief. I got the whole, "well, you must have been abused because you don't like the procedure" speech withe the CNP that I used to see. We had a little "come to Jesus" chat where I explained why I don't like them.

                        It's not because of fear, it's because I find the whole thing undignified. There you are, nake, with your butt hanging off the table, and your feet in the air! I can be as rude, crude, and disgusting as a guy, but I still like to hold to a little dignity!

                        All because I said, obviously joking cause the gal writing down my ht/wt/temp/BP laughed with me when I said, "Time for the yearly molestation!" Hell, they encourage you to molest yourself once a month!

                        I do get anxious about them still. Just anticipation and I do get a little "white coat syndrome" sometimes.
                        It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Little Retail Rabbit View Post
                          Is it a bit wrong that when I saw "IV Sedation" on their website, I was actually thrilled? If I ever actually need anything done again, sure I'm not big on needles into veins, but I think being knocked out for the whole thing might make me feel better about drills in my teeth and stuff XD Ok I know its not what you should expect, but its a back up plan if nothing else ^^;;
                          It's not wrong to be thrilled at all. Look, dentists have their fingers in your MOUTH, and the jaw muscles are among the most powerful in the body. It's in their best interest for patients to sit still. The anxiety about dentistry is well deserved; the drills make scary noises, and the smell of burning bone (from the teeth) is repulsive.

                          If you need it, you need it. Lots and lots of people do, it's nothing unusual.

                          My dentist offers patients sun visors (that fit over glasses) to block the overhead light and headphones with music (you can change the channel to something you like) to distract you while he works. It's wonderful, and all I need to get through a routine procedure. If your dentist doesn't offer these, they're easy to bring on your own, and you can still ask for IV sedation
                          They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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                          • #14
                            I can fully understand how you feel about dentists. My last series of visits was in 2006. I got scared, plus I had money troubles, and didn't go back until Oct. 2011 when I could no longer ignore the pain in a couple of bad teeth. I got through it (it wasn't easy) and I'm committed to taking better care of my teeth now. I'm going back in about 10 days for a filling.

                            There is one thing that concerns me. Five years ago while working on me, the dentist gave me some drug that tends to cause your heart to speed up a bit. He warned me beforehand about this effect. When it started I had to ask him to stop for a few minutes because it freaked me out.

                            I am WAY more likely to freak out now. I've had panic attacks where my heart pounds, and I think having it start doing that will trigger a panic attack, so I'm going to have to talk to him beforehand and tell him I don't want that drug. If he can't do the drilling without it, then I'm not going to do it.
                            When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                            • #15
                              As someone with inflamed gums and shitloads of tooth problems...I always feel the needle, always.

                              I would celebrate too if I got a good dentist willing to either let me have cuddly toys or put me under.
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