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    This is a tale from one of my friends/coworkers, who is a really cool woman I get along with famously, we'll call her T. She's been having issues with her landlord, and since it's not me, but it does have to do with paying for things and them not being handled, etc, I'm putting it in Sightings. If it's wrong, go ahead and move it.

    When I started working here, I worked with a guy I'll call N. N lived in an apartment with his pitbull, who was a doll. I hung out with him a few times, and got to hear about how crazy his landlord was--he approved the dog living there, but if the dog barked even once whil N was at work, the landlord would call N at work and complain. Well, N got a new job and moved down to Texas, my coworker T took over his lease.

    T moved in with her dog, Kimberly shortly thereafter. She has had numerous issues since she moved in, including but not limited to: an air conditioner that malfunctioned and took forever to be replaced, only for the new one to be a piece of crap as well; the apartment being a mess when T moved in, even though the landlord claims he cleaned it thoroughly; neighbors who are loud day in and day out, even after complaints; and neighbors who have small children whom they lock out of their apartment, allowing the kids to run screaming up and down the hallways and across all the yards, to push all the buzzers and to attempt to break into T's apartment by "picking" the lock with a kitchen knife. (And yes, she has made complaints to the landlord about all of this).

    Since T moved in, Kimberly's health has been going downhill. It's now to the point that she contstantly has accidents and can barely stand on her own, so T set up an appointment to have her put down. In the meantime, T has kept Kimberly mostly confined to the kitchen (tile floor) with towels that she changes multiple times a day and washes, and feeds her fast food hamburgers to make her a happy doggy for her final days. Apparently, the landlord doesn't believe T's neighbors should "have to deal with living like this" (i.e. next door to a dog owner?) and has been bothering T constantly.

    It escalated to the point where I felt the desire to become involved when T was at work with me the other day. Again, we work in a call center, and we generally turn our cell phones off/on vibrate, and don't answer them unless it's an emergency. T has told her landlord this, and asked that he not call unless it's an emergency, and then only to call once--she'll call back when she's free. Well, T pulls out her phone to find some 10-15 missed calls and 6 voice mails from her landlord, in which he sounds like there is an emergency. As it turns out, the "emergency" is that he went in to her apartment to shut her sliding door because it started raining, and saw that Kimberly had an accident on the floor.

    Now, T has spoken with him about this on several occasions, and he is well aware that Kimberly is being put to sleep this week. He knows that there is nothing T can do, besides cleaning up after the accidents. He knows that T's neighbors are obnoxious and constantly disturb her. And he's been asked/warned not to call her over and over again while she's at work. Yet he ignores all this, and does just that. Which makes me angry. T is already upset that her dog is dying, and now she's being harrassed by a man who has not been a good landlord.

    So tell me, how childish would it be if we (me and a few of my fellow cc gals) started calling T's landlord at all hours of the night and day and hanging up/leaving nonsense voicemails? Because at this point, we're sorely tempted.
    "In the end I was the mean girl/or somebody's in between girl"~Neko Case

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  • #2
    Geesh...sounds like hell.

    I'm sure there's a clause somewhere in the law that would allow one to move out of an apartment with unfavorable living conditions without penalty of breaking the lease.

    WIth a malfunctioning AC, neighbors giving a constant nuisance, and a harassing landlord, I'd be damned if your friend doesn't have a case.

    She ought to start documenting these occurances to build up her case.

    My sympathies to your friend for having to put the dog down...I know how difficult that can be.

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    • #3
      It sounds to me like she has a pretty damn good case to take her landlord to court, seeing as people with less have done so. Also, it doesn't matter if it was raining, a Landlord can never ever go into a tennets apartment with out their permission. Right there she has a case for tresspassing.

      I think it would be ok to make the calls, if it was to bug him about him taking care of things in the apartment complex.

      (PS- worse comes to worse, she should call social services about the kids, because i bet they could have a case for neglect)

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      • #4
        Quoth Sliceanddice View Post
        Also, it doesn't matter if it was raining, a Landlord can never ever go into a tennets apartment with out their permission. Right there she has a case for tresspassing.
        I know it varies some from state to state, but I know here in New Mexico, they can only enter if I've given permission or if it's an emergency. I've never know them to enter because somebody's left their window open and it's raining. Now the water heater upstairs leaking into my storage room and nobody home up there, yeah that was appropriate for them to enter! Thank goddess!
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        • #5
          Here in California, if you rent a room/apartment/house, the landlord cannot enter without your express permission.

          Also, his calling multiple times is probably harrassment.

          Calling him at all hours would be, too, and should probably be avoided.

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          • #6
            Quoth myswtghst View Post
            . . . and to attempt to break into T's apartment by "picking" the lock with a kitchen knife.
            My brother tried that when we were little. The tip of the knife broke off in the lock, had to call a locksmith who couldn't remove it.
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            • #7
              Sounds like T. needs to get out of there - and I agree with previous posters who said she shouldn't have much problems getting out of the lease considering what the landlord has done/hasn't done.

              Big hugs to her on the loss of her precious dog.

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              • #8
                It depends on the county/ city/ state/local laws and the contract.
                We used to have rental properties and it was written in the state approved standard contract that the owner could enter the property at any time for any reasonable reason. Meaning you couldn't go in to do a panty raid - but if you thought they were tearing the place up you had the right to go and check your property.
                I know it is tempting to retaliate to this idiot landlord - but don't you could make things worse.
                Have T document everything
                Yes, Child services should be contacted if they are locking the child out of the home. she should be able to do that without giving her name

                Most importantly T is going to need the love and support of her friends right now . . .be there for her.

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                • #9
                  Oh, my goodness. Poor T and poor Kimberly.

                  I'm not sure if this is law or whatever in all states, but I was under the impression that landlords had to give at least 24 hour notice before entering apartments.

                  Do not harass him...it's sinking to his level and won't help anything. Just my
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                  • #10
                    Quoth myswtghst View Post
                    and neighbors who have small children whom they lock out of their apartment, allowing the kids to run screaming up and down the hallways and across all the yards, to push all the buzzers and to attempt to break into T's apartment by "picking" the lock with a kitchen knife. (And yes, she has made complaints to the landlord about all of this).
                    I had neighbors like this once. At all hours of the night, the mother would lock her daughter out of the house and you would hear her banging on the door anywhere from 10 at night to 2 in the morning. Sometimes it would accompanied by tearful pleas to be let in. The child couldn't have been any older than 15.

                    And apparently, they were a source of strife in the neighborhood since every few weeks there would be some kind of drama on their front doorstep or somewhere in the general vacinity of the house. The police were called at least once a month to visit the house.

                    They moved out sometime last year. I think they foreclosed on the house since the "for sale" sign was put up by a company that buys and sells repossessed properties. Either that or they were evicted. (They had broken several rules of the land lease, like "no dogs", excessive noise, and the mom was letting her boyfriend live there without telling the landlord.)

                    I wasn't sorry to see them go. Now a very nice family with three beautiful, sweet little girls lives next door. I also may be a vegetarian, but whatever they cook on the grill every weekend smells so good that I'm tempted to renounce my eating habits and join them.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth Tigress View Post
                      I also may be a vegetarian, but whatever they cook on the grill every weekend smells so good that I'm tempted to renounce my eating habits and join them.
                      Yeeees... That's it... come over to the Dark (Meat) Side...
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                      • #12
                        Quoth BeckySunshine View Post
                        Do not harass him...it's sinking to his level and won't help anything. Just my
                        I was just going to say that. If you sink to his level, he'd then have justification to either make things worse, or throw you out.

                        Things like that are why I'm *so* glad I don't have a landlord. My neighbors where I live now are pretty damn nice. Where I was living before, most of the neighbors were nice, except the goofballs next door. I could write several books on their antics.

                        But, occasionally, I was ready to strangle the other neighbors. They'd let their cat out at night, and one of them would go out to call for it. Around 2am. After several nights of this, I leaned out the window and said "Joanie, it's 2am, shut the hell up!" Put a stop to that

                        Then there's the time they had company over, and their car alarm went off all night. We're not talking about once here, but *multiple* times, all night long What made it difficult, is that it wasn't even their car! Her husband, and some of his friends went hunting, took the van, and left the car behind. The bastard knew that the car had "electrical issues" but didn't leave the keys, or even tell her. That
                        managed to piss off just about everybody on the block, many of whom were *not* polite about it. Several people, including myself, since I had to work the next day , were ready to simply smash the window, pop the hood, and then cut every wire they could find!
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                        • #13
                          Quoth myswtghst View Post
                          So tell me, how childish would it be if we (me and a few of my fellow cc gals) started calling T's landlord at all hours of the night and day and hanging up/leaving nonsense voicemails? Because at this point, we're sorely tempted.
                          Two words : Caller ID. Pretty much everyone has it now, so it's very easy for the landlord to call you back and/or file a complaint with the police.

                          I had problems with a former landlord since they were breaking their own lease rules about apartment access. Thankfully it allowed me to break my lease several months early because of that and several other things they were not doing.

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                          • #14
                            I agree with others. Many people have gotten away with breaking their lease over much smaller, more petty issues. You definetly have a strong case and a very good reason to do so.

                            Check your lease to see what they say about entering your home......some may vary. Mine will call you to let you know that they may be doing x y or z in a few days, so you know they are coming.

                            I am also a former victim of sucky neighbors. We ALL feel for you. Trust us.....
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                            • #15
                              Speaking of landlords, I'm not real happy with mine right now because they won't allow me to write personal checks for rent ever again, because I bounced my rent check back in November. Which was the first and only time that ever happened, but apparently company policy is that I have to use money orders from now on. The guy who works in the rental office is nice and all, and I understand he's got to do his job or he gets in trouble, but having to use money orders gets way inconvenient for me at times.

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