Attack of the Italian Model Wannabes (and other stuff)

[crazylegs]

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Obviously I am not arguing that killing in self defense is justified here, but Locke underscores the point that I do not know what my assailant's intentions are and I must take action quickly and decisively before the situation ends badly for me.

The nose is pretty resilient anyway, and most people survive a broken one pretty easily.

UK CSers, remmber, reasonable force, smashing someones face in if all they have done is grab your arm would be excessive force, however returning the favour of grabbing (then adding a twist of some description) would be AOK.

[Geek King]

It's happened...

Okay, you can't just tease like that. You gotta share that one. Inquiring fanboys want to know.

[Record Store Tough Guy]

@Crazylegs:

It should be noted that I reside in the American South, a region well known for the pugnacious nature of its inhabitants, and a bit more lenient in the application of what's commonly referred to down here as a "whuppin'."



But by "smashing someone's face in," are we talking a jab to give a bloody nose, or repeatedly applying the fist in and around the nasal/oral area with the intent to dislodge teeth and or break a jaw?

Obviously if the guy's in front of me, I'm not going to have the same reaction. That's when the submission hold and the "Please call security" comes into play. My reaction is more-or-less proportionate (in my opinion) to being forcefully grabbed from behind by an unknown assailant.

Either way, it drives home the point that you simply do not touch strangers to make a sale.

We can all talk about what we'd so in such a situation, but until it actually comes up, it's all moot anyway.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

@Crazylegs:

It should be noted that I reside in the American South, a region well known for the pugnacious nature of its inhabitants, and a bit more lenient in the application of what's commonly referred to down here as a "whuppin'."

He speaks the truth. Hence my disbelief that no ass kickin's have occured as a result of this.

You tell me people get grabbed with no consequence in, say, LA, and I won't even blink. You tell me it happens in the American South, and I have a hard time believing it.

[MystyGlyttyr]

Okay, you can't just tease like that. You gotta share that one. Inquiring fanboys want to know.

Nothing much to tell. Some dude grabbed me...I've trained myself for years to respond to being grabbed with immediately retaliation...and I usually carry a small purse loaded with rolls of change that doubles as a bola.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Hey, I used to do that when I was a kid. Only I didn't use change, I used rocks.

[Metody]

I've got a can of soup in the corner of my purse. It'll do some good damage, and it's a pretty innocuous item. I can't see someone being arrested because she was startled and hit someone with her purse, which just happened to contain a can of Cambell's wedding soup.

[crazylegs]

But by "smashing someone's face in," are we talking a jab to give a bloody nose, or repeatedly applying the fist in and around the nasal/oral area with the intent to dislodge teeth and or break a jaw?

Well as soon as they let go thats when you stop the pain, ie they grab you, you punch them into a daze, they let go, if at that point you carry on hitting, twisting, striking then that would be considered assault. If however you are restraining them to await police arrival (ie like security guards do to prevent violence/escape) and you can justify your level of force then you're ok.

[Bluenomi]

I usually walk past them as fast as possible and ignore them.

If they tried to grab me they would discover I have a wonderful, loud, high pitched, girl in mortal danger scream I just love using in such situations Not only would they have issues with their hearing afterwards but it is the kind of scream that gets everyones attention. Great for sound effects in my friend's horror movies

[iradney]

I dunno, if someone grabs me without my permission, to hell with hitting them. I'll just scream - and I'm LOUD. As in, in our high school musical, I was the only one that didn't need a mike.

[Dreamstalker]

I can also be hella loud when I want to. Years of talking over subway noise has cultivated that...when I was a little wolflet, I had a shriek that would instantly get everyone's attention (it was used wisely though, powerful weapon it was).

[Gabrielle Proctor]

Ugh! I hate pushy kiosk workers. I always pretend I'm on the phone when I pass them.

[Gabrielle Proctor]

He speaks the truth. Hence my disbelief that no ass kickin's have occured as a result of this.

You tell me people get grabbed with no consequence in, say, LA, and I won't even blink. You tell me it happens in the American South, and I have a hard time believing it.

Hell yeah, you have to be careful who you grab down here. You never know who has a "toter's" liscence. Which is a southern, redneck way of saying "liscense to carry".

[Sharsarannon]

The main reason it gets me is that with the way things are in the world nowadays, with so many people who are either A) Paranoid and/or B)Trained in self defense, why on earth would you want to grab someone you do not know, with no idea of what their response might be?

I'm one of these physically paranoid people. I think it's the Asperger's but I absolutely HATE being touched without my express permission or a clear warning. My roommates have learned to make eye contact before trying to glomp me, because I've clawed, for lack of a better word, at people who put arms around me unsolicited.

If someone were to unexpectedly grab my arm, reaction is as follows, in about one complete second:
Alert=threat!!
Threat=restraint
Order: Terminate restraint by any means possible.
command: Step around restraint, Free hand heel coming up and striking attacker's arm AS HARD AS POSSIBLE.

This'd happen in the time it'd take me to realize I'd done it- approx. one total second.

If I'm facing the opposite direction of the attacker and they've grabbed the arm of mine closest to them, when I hit their arm it will strike the elbow and force it the wrong way.
This Almost Inevitably breaks someone's elbow. It's so effective we never practice it at full speed, because it will do that.

I don't like the idea of hurting people, but dude if you grab at me you should know- you have no idea what you could get into. I would be only slightly apologetic.

[Rapscallion]

I'm just wondering if anyone who got sprayed by the perfume-wielding assailants feigned an asthma attack?

Heh - made me all gooey inside thinking about it.

Rapscallion