Nothing like insulting your students right in front of them...

[Shabo]

Yesterday, I got a call from the student help desk that a professor was having trouble with the wireless, and could I go help them. So sure, put in the ticket, run down to the classroom. I get there, and the professor is giving an exam with about 4 or 5 students left. I introduce myself, go in and look at her computer. She needs a vpn connection set up. I set it up, ask her if she has a password, which she doesn't, so I log in and get her to where she can set a password. In the meantime, a student comes up with a question about the test (related to sales of products). She answers his question, but the poor kid still isn't getting it. So I ask once the student sits down, is this class business 101? She says, no, it's math 103, but it might as well be third grade. (She kind of drops her voice, but she's one of those people that over exaggerates with her mouth... and she held up three well manicured fingers to further emphasize her point.) Me = .

She continues, now with snooty attitude permanently stuck, by saying that no one ever told her about anything in this college, and how she should have been told so this wouldn't have happened, blah blah. All I could really say to that was, "Well, that's what I'm here for." (Seriously, she waited until the end of the semester to take care of this? Because clearly, there was NO ONE she could have asked to find out about this. And nothing on the website, if she had gone searching. )

She then asked a question about an online class web tool that the school offers if the professor asks to be signed up for it. I told her who to contact, and she complains that at *community college* they set it up for everyone automatically, and it's up to the professor to use it. I said that I think we had a few more professors than *cc* and it would be a bit more difficult and time consuming to do it that way. She's like, "let's see, with all the part time lecturers and full time staff, about 500." (Yeah, you're at a state university now, lady. Not the biggest one in the state, but I can guarantee you that with nearly 9,000 students, we have more than 500 faculty.) I just said, "yeah, I'm pretty sure we have more than that." Seriously. She wants to get into a pissing contest about how a community college is better than a university? Golly, lady, you don't really seem like Harvard material yourself. STFU.

[Pagan]

Seriously. She wants to get into a pissing contest about how a community college is better than a university? Golly, lady, you don't really seem like Harvard material yourself. STFU.

Please say that you're not trying to imply something about people who attend community college? I'm going to a community college right now (Central New Mexico Community College). But, I also hold a BS and a BA from New Mexico State University (the state land grant). Universities are not necessarily better than community colleges. Depends on what you're going for. I'm at CNM for a Pharmacy Tech ceritificate, something that's not offered at NMSU, UNM, ENMU, WNMU, NM Tech, or NM Highlands. Community colleges serve different purposes than 4-year institutions.

I'm not condoning this particular instructors behavior. It was reprehensible. Actually, I find this kind of attitude comes more from university profs than from profs and instructors at community colleges. Generally, the instructors I've run into so far are much more willing to help out their students than at universities.

[auntiem]

I had one professor that would say the most awful hurtful things about your intelect to your face in class. If what you said was particularly stupid he would repeat it using your full name in other classes. That "might has well be third grade" comment would have been to mild for him. In a 101 class he said to one classmate "I'm writing a book about you, it is called To Stupid to Live".

[Shabo]

Please say that you're not trying to imply something about people who attend community college?

The only negative thing I have to say about the community college she was talking about is that they have larger average class sizes than the university, and I feel that that negatively impacts learning. I have nothing against that community college at all... but it is most certainly not better than the university. I'd give them close to even for the liberal arts, personally, but our established colleges (business, nursing, engineering, and visual & performing arts) have better established faculty and curriculum. She was just using a condescending tone the entire time, and she was acting like the CC should be compared to Harvard.

[ditchdj]

Yeah well I once went to a community college and a couple of "professors" there were flat out arrogant, rude assholes. I've heard other horror stories about rude, unhelpful instructors at the other 2-year college nearby too. The fact that one is STILL there to this day has reinforced my jaded, biased view.

[racerdude321]

... no, it's math 103, but it might as well be third grade. ...

She's 100% right. If you can't do simple basic math college is not for you.

She wants to get into a pissing contest about how a community college is better than a university? Golly, lady, you don't really seem like Harvard material yourself. STFU.

In that regard she is wrong. CC is not better than a university. Like another poster it depends on what one is attending for.

[Imogene]

I attended a community college for a few semesters, and, for crap's sake! I had to take a class called, "Introduction to College" I swear. It was mandatory! WHAT?
That teacher gave us a final of giving a stand up report on anything we liked, it just had to be at least five minutes. I did mine on a storyline I had tumbling around in my head at the time.
Best part? I got points off for, "Using big words."
Excuse me, this is College, right? Big words don't exist here. And if you stumble upon one, you can grab a fucking dictionary! I used those particular words to gloss over the particularly screwed up parts of the story (such as, the main character recently went through a metamorphosis (that was a big word) that made her the newest guardian of her home.)
I didn't want to take half an hour to explain the whole background of the character.

[MrSunshineState]

I will be using the University of Phoenix for my BS

[BookstoreEscapee]

I attended a community college for a few semesters, and, for crap's sake! I had to take a class called, "Introduction to College" I swear. It was mandatory! WHAT?

My college has the "Freshman Seminar" which is sort of an "intro to college" type class. But they have several classes, on different subjects (mine was on Technology and the Environment; another was on Nazi Germany, a few were in the English department, etc.). It was a real class, on a real subject (you got to pick your top 2 or 3 and they would try to give you your first choice) that incorporated things like a library tour and projects using the various resources, so that you would learn what was available for future classes as well, and get a feel for what was expected of you as a college student. Each class was limited to about 20 students. The only restriction was you weren't supposed to take one that was in your major department (assuming you had declared a major).

[Pagan]

... but it is most certainly not better than the university. I'd give them close to even for the liberal arts, personally, but our established colleges (business, nursing, engineering, and visual & performing arts) have better established faculty and curriculum.

It's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. As I said, they serve different purposes. I'm going for a Pharmacy Tech certificate, that is not offered at any of the universities in the state. So, since CNM does offer that, it's better than one of the universities.

I guess CNM is one of the better CCs. I've had no problems with profs or any thing else. Everyone's been nothing but helpful. Guess it depends on where you go.

[Shabo]

She's 100% right. If you can't do simple basic math college is not for you.

He did the basic math just fine. It was the concept behind the math that he wasn't understanding. The question was something like "Company X sells Product for $$. They sell Y amount. It costs them $$ to buy." and then something about profit. Basically, he needed to do a breakeven analysis, but couldn't figure that out. I have no idea how the question was actually phrased, but I wouldn't be surprised if it had confusing wording. She couldn't really explain it any better than she did, and he just didn't get it.

In that regard she is wrong. CC is not better than a university. Like another poster it depends on what one is attending for.

Yes, and that particular CC does have some great programs that aren't offered at the university. They have one where you can learn how to repair damaged computer components for use in legal cases... that one sounds like a ton of fun. But for the most part, the curriculum is no better than what we have here.