The right to refuse service.

[PhotoChick]

In at least my state, it is illegal to put up a sign like that, as it is akin to stating that you are exempt from laws against discrimination.

Do you remember where you seen this or who you heard it from cause I know I saw one of those signs in town (maybe the laundrymat?). When I tried googling it the only thing I could find was websites of place in colorado that say they have the right to refuse service to anyone.

[Broomjockey]

I looked and found it, and it's part of the act that describes that people can't descriminate based on the various grounds. Was a royal pain to find though.

[Pagan]

This might clear things up a little on the "right to refuse service":
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...icle13721.html

Pardon me for saying so, but that's a wacked out way of looking at it, in my opinion.

You have to remember, Saydrah is in Colorado. Eric Raddeman that does "The Forest at Night" podcast is in Littleton. He spent somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes apologizing to the rest of the country for Tom Tancredo.

[powerboy]

Some people will use the Race card no matter what.

Example:

• A light goes out, in their home. Then by God, the company who made the bulb is racist.
• No Tables are opened, then the restaurant is racist.
• It is raining outside & the weatherman said it was sunny, then the news station is racist.

I cannot see how it can be illegal to put a "Reserve the Right to Refuse Service" sign up.

[PhotoChick]

I'm in Colorado too. Or at least thats what the government says. I think this far south we should just be part of New Mexico and be done with it.

[TennesseeWhiskey]

Some people will use the Race card no matter what.

Example:

• A light goes out, in their home. Then by God, the company who made the bulb is racist.
• No Tables are opened, then the restaurant is racist.
• It is raining outside & the weatherman said it was sunny, then the news station is racist.

I cannot see how it can be illegal to put a "Reserve the Right to Refuse Service" sign up.

I've dealt with many of them in my time, honey. Those are the ones you polite to death, mhmm, mhmm, sympathize, pat 'em on the back, shake your head, and get 'em out the door. When they try to play the race card on you, that's when you really have to bite your tongue and polite 'em to death. Then cuss 'em for all you're worth after they leave.

It isn't illegal to put up the sign. It is illegal if you use it to only serve certain people, or deny access to certain people due to their ethnicity, if it's a public business. If you have a private club or some such, it's private, you can say your club is for one-eyed-one-horned-flying purple people eaters only, and there ain't a damn thing anybody can do about it, since it's private.

As to the "no hip hop clothes" rule, that's where the owner screwed up. At the bowling alley in our area, their dress code goes something like this.

1. No undershirts as outer clothing
2. No excessively baggy pants
3. No gang-affiliated apparel
4. No indecent exposure
5. No bandannas or do-rags.

On the no indecent exposure, I think it's worded more like private parts must be covered, but, I'm only on my first cup of coffee.

Basically, what that owner is doing, is trying to keep problems to a minimum. If 99% of your problems are from people dressed like the above description, (now, notice, I never said a THING about race, and, honey, there's plenty of white folks who wear that stuff anymore as well.), well, that's who you want to stay away.

[Broomjockey]

It isn't illegal to put up the sign. It is illegal if you use it to only serve certain people, or deny access to certain people due to their ethnicity, if it's a public business.

Actually, the thing for Colorado that I found said "No business shall put up, and no individual shall allow to be put up a sign stating that "We reserve the right to refuse service."" Which to me say, that yes, that in fact is illegal. As bizarre as that is.

[TennesseeWhiskey]

That's odd, then, too, I live in the South, and that's where most of my travelling takes place. I don't see gobs and oodles of the signs, but, I still see them now and again in mom and pop type places. I do see different dress-code things in bars, bowling alleys and such.

Hell, the main thing is, when you go out, if you can't hold your liquor, stick to co-cola. Not saying I've always done that now, I hold my liquor just fine, but, sometimes, even when you hold it well, you get to the unholdable point, and well..... let us just say, that's why TW don't drink tequila no more.

[rvdammit]

If you can't hold your liquor set it on the table and use a straw?

[Pagan]

Or put it in a sippy cup!

[Sandman]

Actually, the thing for Colorado that I found said "No business shall put up, and no individual shall allow to be put up a sign stating that "We reserve the right to refuse service."" Which to me say, that yes, that in fact is illegal. As bizarre as that is.

I'm surprised nobody has challenged the law based upon the fact that it interferes the business to allow it to resend the invitation to make an offer.

[Saydrah]

Actually, the thing for Colorado that I found said "No business shall put up, and no individual shall allow to be put up a sign stating that "We reserve the right to refuse service."" Which to me say, that yes, that in fact is illegal. As bizarre as that is.

Yes, that's the same law I was referencing. It was included in the posters they have to hang in break rooms at my last job.

[powerboy]

It's one thing to say that "Certain Race stay out''. But it is another to have "Right to refuse service to anyone". They are 2 different things. As long as the owner is letting in every race, then they should have the right to refuse service.

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

It's one thing to say that "Certain Race stay out''. But it is another to have "Right to refuse service to anyone". They are 2 different things. As long as the owner is letting in every race, then they should have the right to refuse service.

And I'm pretty sure they do; you just can't put up a sign saying so.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Don't think you need a sign; isn't it just an unwritten rule that a shop or bar can refuse service to anyone? I once refused to serve a guy in the pizza place on the grounds that he was calling me a c word and a bitch cuz I put him on hold; I not only refused to serve him, I hung up on him.