I just joined and you can list me as a furry too. Take a guess what I am. It's rather obvious.
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Quoth Juwl View PostMan, I've never thought of Brian that way... I just always thought of him as a dog that has the odd ability to form English words, kind of like Lassie, only more literate, in much the same way Stewie can 'talk' despite being too young to be able to form such complex sentences.
Man, just think... there are way too many children's shows that have anthros... A lot of stuff aimed at the younger kids apparently support furry-ism! Oh, noes!
Catgirls are one thing, but Brian from Family guy? He's just a dog.
Sorry to poke my nose in with a less-than laudatory view of the furry fandom, but I think sometimes people ought to consider the creator's right to define their characters a little more thoroughly. It kind of reminds me of how JKR got labeled pagan/Satanist for writing books with magic in them.
Though again I emphasize- I have no problem with the vast majority of furries, furry sites, furry art, etc. Most of the people are very nice people and most of the art is very talented; it's just not my thing. I prefer the Potter fandom. I don't even LIKE the original books that much, but I want to have DementorDelta's babies!My basic dog food advice - send a pm if you need more.
Saydrah's leaving the nest advice + packing list live here.
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My ex-roomie is a furry. I like most of his friends, they're a good crowd.Check out my cosplay social group!
http://customerssuck.com/board/group.php?groupid=18
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Quoth Rapscallion View PostUm, wouldn't that make you a scaly?
Quoth Saydrah View Postbut the claiming any talking, walks-upright animal anywhere anytime is part of it that some members- though not the majority-"I call murder on that!"
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Quoth Juwl View PostYes, but scaly is another sub-fandom of furry.
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Quoth Rapscallion View PostUm, wouldn't that make you a scaly?
I'm technically a scaly, myself, but I just call myself a furry.
Quoth Broomjockey View PostYet to hear a scaly actually accept that. It's usually considered seperate but equal.
Of course, if they're persona is an aligator and they're resisting the umbrella term "furry" they're just being silly, since "furry" refers to anyone who is a fan of anthropomorphic animals, even if they have no animal-based persona at all.
I have a couple of friends who are interested in anthropomorphics in literature, but aren't particularly interested in the visual art or spiritual side in the least. They have no furry personae and are interested in only a small subset of the whole shebang, yet they will still allow that they are still part of the fandom.
Quoth Saydrah View PostActually, this is why I tend to avoid the furry fandom. I have no problem with the sub-culture, but the claiming any talking, walks-upright animal anywhere anytime is part of it that some members- though not the majority- tend to engage in just squicks me from a creative perspective.
Catgirls are one thing, but Brian from Family guy? He's just a dog.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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As a vestigial fur i really enjoyed this thread so far. But it seems to be derailing too quickly into a fratching worthy fight over terms and details. Please peeps, dont sour this thread on meI pet animals, I rescue insects, I hug trees.
"I picture the lead singer of Gwar screaming 'People of Japan, look at my balls! My swinging pendulous balls!!!'" -- Khyras
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Quoth Bliss View PostBut it seems to be derailing too quickly into a fratching worthy fight over terms and details.
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I thought I saw it going down, sorry I got twitchy finger, And I didn't report because it wasn't yet a fight or bad situation and thus I didn't want to alert a mod yet. Plus I tried to do my post as tactful as I could for I thought I could help a little. Sorry for the misstep then.I pet animals, I rescue insects, I hug trees.
"I picture the lead singer of Gwar screaming 'People of Japan, look at my balls! My swinging pendulous balls!!!'" -- Khyras
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Strictly speaking, any anthropomorphized animal, whether real or fictional (by that, I mean the difference between cats, skunks, and alligators vs. unicorns, griffons, and dragons) is furry. It doesn't matter how far it is - if it's an animal with human traits (walking, talking, coherent thinking), or a human with animal traits (catgirls, etc.), it qualifies as furry. Even Watership Down, which is strictly a book about rabbits, is considered furry.
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As far as respecting the author's intentions goes - well, that's fine, but you have to realize that a creation only "belongs" to the author (talking emotionally, not legally) up until the day the creation is released to the public. Once the public observes the creation, they will get their own emotional attachments to the creation in ways that the author never realized or intended.
Take, for example, Star Wars. 20 years after the fact, George Lucas decided that the showdown between Han and Greedo in the Cantina made Han look a little too ruthless, and changed it to show Greedo shooting first in an official rerelease of the movie. What happened after that should be pretty common knowledge. (And if you're unfamiliar with this bit of movie history, do a Google search for, "Han shot first," for more information than you ever cared about!)
So I ask you... who really shot first? As the Creator, does George Lucas get to rewrite it after release? Legally, there's no question - it's his creation, he can alter it how he sees fit. But morally? Emotionally?Last edited by Nekojin; 05-04-2008, 06:22 PM.
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Quoth Nekojin View PostSo I ask you... who really shot first? As the Creator, does George Lucas get to rewrite it after release? Legally, there's no question - it's his creation, he can alter it how he sees fit. But morally? Emotionally?
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