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  • Dining Disaster-What would you do? (Extremely long)

    After a really long weekend helping a friend setup and run an MMA event here (didn't even get home until 3 a.m. the morning following the event), hubby and I decided that we and the kids should just go out to dinner last night (Mother's Day and I didn't feel up to getting groceries just to cook). I had a hankering for a particular dish that I had enjoyed that is only served (that I know of) at this one place here in town. It's a relatively new place to us having only been open under 9 months. The reviews from several others have been 'ok to so-so'. We'd eaten there 2 times prior and the first time was ok, the second was great.

    So, here's last night's accounting of what happened:

    7:00pm-Arrive and tell the hostess there are 4 persons and that we request non-smoking seating area. Her response is, "Well, where do you want to sit?" Our response is, "Where ever you need to seat us. We'll sit where ever you put us." (I've waited tables before so I know about 1 server have 6 tables and another only having 1-not fun!). She seats us be the door coming in. Ok, not bad, friends are there and we can chat across the way a bit. It was not extremely busy, but there were guest scattered throughout the room.

    7:15pm-Waitress (also the apparent hostess) returns to take our drink orders. In total, we had 1 unsweet tea, 1 Sprite, 1 milk, & 1 water. She returns with the tea, sprite and water and sets them down and leaves. 5 minutes later, she returns stating, "We're outta milk. What else would you drink?" My little guy says, "Water is fine." She returns again 5 minutes later with his water. Little guy is asking us in the meantime, "How do you run out of milk, Mom?"

    7:30pm-Waitress returns to take our order. I ordered the Baked Chicken Spaghetti, and asked for my bread to be the dinner rolls instead of the honey croissant. Her response was, "We're all out of dinner rolls and the croissants." My response was, "Then please just bring the Texas toast. That'll be fine. My son here will have the 'something something shrimp dinner, little guy will have the childrens grilled cheese." Hubby also gave her his order, which she refused the dinner side salad and gave him a choice of 2 veggies with his order. So he ordered steamed veggies and a baked potato with butter/sour cream.

    8:00pm--Waitress-"Your order will be here soon, we're just waiting on your spaghetti." She leaves before I can mention that son's water is empty and request a refill. She also promptly avoided our table for the next 15 minutes. Meanwhile, you can hear the commotion in the kitchen with all the young servers/staff goofing off, calling names, etc. Hubby and I were like, "WTF?"

    8:15pm--Other servers bring out our food, setting it on the table for me to pass out to the correct person. Here's where it gets interesting. My spaghetti was 'cut up' into small pieces like you would do for a small child that doesn't know how to wind it on the fork. Son's shrimp dinner to say the least was nasty. Only had 3 small to medium size shrimp on the rice and the rice looked like it had been originally been meant for this dish but had run low and just thrown in what veggies they had left to 'make it go further'. Youngest son's grilled cheese was half together, not that big of a deal, but how do you seperate 2 slices of bread that have been welded together with cheese and it is now cold and impossible to pull apart and re-apply? Hubby's potato was there, uncut, no butter, no sour cream. No bread, any at all and son's drink was still empty. Our server came by shortly there after and the standard, "How is everything?" I calmly and politely (hubby was impressed by my manners this time) stated that we were not please with how our service was being handled, we had no bread, son's water was still empty (had never been checked) and hubby still had no butter/sour cream and asked her to please make the order correct. She just kind of gave me a blank stare, turned and walked away. She brought a new glass of water for the son, 2 slices of bread for 3 of us and the B/SC for hubby.

    While we quietly ate our dinner, it sucked btw, we overheard another waitress telling another table that they were out of bread, period. They were also out of noodles for the spaghetti (explains why mine was cut up--bottom of the kettle I suppose). They had also run out of a couple other items that were requested.

    8:30pm-Waitress be-bops back over to our table with a pitcher of water to refill hubby's glass of Sprite. He politely refused, letting her know that he'd had Sprite, not water. She asked if we'd like anything else. My response was, "Just the check, please." She brought it out shortly. I paid the bill for the 4 of us, all $43.05. I refused to leave a tip-her job was short of having me get the food order taken, prepared and delivered myself.

    What really ticked me off was that I am always polite to the staff when we dine out. When I order, I always say please, thank you, etc. I gather the menus from the kids and always politely hand them back to the staff. I maintained my composure with this girl the entire time we were there yet she never even apologized for her lack of service (the food is not her fault--I can forgive terrible food for great service). It was almost like she couldn't comprehend that anything was wrong. From the time we entered until the time we left was a little over 1 1/2hours. That is rediculously long as we've eaten in much nicer places and even with the wait time to get a table we've not been there that long.

    If she had just apologized for the wait/screw ups instead of acting like this was how it was done, I would have probably left her a minimal 10% tip instead of the big fat ZERO that I left. I always tip, this was a first time for me. We had just eaten Friday night at the Huddle House and the service/waitress was so good that I left her $6 on a $22 ticket. She was worth her weight in gold.

    Was I wrong to not leave a tip at all? There was no manager present that I could tell. If there was, he/she was amongst all the childish behavior going on in the kitchen. We could hear them yelling back and forth to each other, telling jokes, running from one another (could see through the door to the kitchen from where I was sitting). I do know the owner and intend to inform him of what happened because noone should have the service we had that night and his business is in serious jeopardy if this is how his restaurant is being run. He probably has no idea that things like this are occuring. So, how would YOU have handled this situation?

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    I went to a MMA event here in my area last Friday. It was my first live MMA event and was truly awesome!
    "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance!" from Saint of Circumstance - Grateful Dead

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    • #3
      Sounds like your restaurant of choice is under new (crappy) managent. The answer is, find a new restaurant. Me personally, would have given the waitress the benefit of the doubt and not completely stiffed her. I mean, it seems most of your gripes are with the food taste/preparation and that has nothing to do with her. But from your story she certainly didn't do a very good job either. But again, for myself, to totally stiff a server they would have to everything short of spitting in my food and insulting my mother over the PA system. But that's just me.
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      • #4
        I almost always leave a tip except when the service is SO freaking bad that I can't stand it. (Which has been all of 3 times in my life).

        I was a waitress for a little while and worked my behind off because tips were factored into our paycheck so I only got about $2.35 an hour pre-tip. I knew if I was good, I'd make a better salary. HOWEVER If I was sucky (and not just having an off night) I knew that I'd make less tips.

        Tips aren't required contrary to popular belief. Much needed, much appreciated, however- yes.

        But if you don't do your job, then why in the heck do you expect to get paid for it?
        You don't know what Hades is until you've worked at least one Christmas Season in a toy store that offers free gift wrapping.

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        • #5
          I don't know too much about working in food service, but a friend of mine told me to never leave no tip at all, but instead leave exactly 2.5%, since that's what the servers have to tip out to the kitchen staff.
          That way they're not losing money, but they know that you know that you just screwed them over.
          Of course this is only necesary for exceptionally crappy service, like the service you received.

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          • #6
            You did exactly what I would have done. She hardly did her job, so what is there to tip for?

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            • #7
              I'm normally against leaving no tip, but this lady didn't do a damn thing.

              If they're trying but still do horribly, I'll leave something, but I think you were in the right here. Except that you should always leave a few pennies, just so she doesn't think that you just forgot the tip.
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              • #8
                The food wasn't what we had a problem with as far as she goes. I can forgive bad food for good service and have several times in the past when I ordered something that sounded yummy only to get something that looked and tasted like something I would see after a regurgitation.

                I would also bet she knows I didn't forget the tip since I plainly marked through the "tip amount" line and only authorized the food amount. As well as sharing tips with the kitchen staff-from the way they were behaving in the kitchen and it being do obvious to the diners in the dining room, I'd say they don't deserve it either.

                Thanks for the responses. I always try to put myself into the workers' shoes, be it a waiter/waitress, cashier, manager, customer service rep on the phone, etc. and try to see it from their side. Maybe they were having a bad day, had just received bad news, etc. But she pretty much ignored us even after me politely bringing the issues out and asking her to correct them. We could hear/see most of the other servers and while they had the sheer joy of breaking the news to other patrons of what all they were out of, they still had the courtesy to check on their tables, ensure their orders were correct before they came out of the kitchen, follow up on requests, etc. Maybe I should go back and ask to be seated in Ms. Krissie's area again and see if she has re-thought her way of handling customers. BTW, we were her ONLY table last night while we were there.

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                • #9
                  You did the right thing, but you should go a step farther and take this account of the happenings right up to "I left no tip because the service was so terrible" and add "I never asked for a manager because it was obvious by the way the staff was acting there was no real manager on duty anyway" print it out, and mail it to the restaurant, or call and ask who is the highest person you can speak to, tell them the complaint, and then send the letter.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think you were wrong for not tipping. I would have sent the food back myself.

                    I had a recent episode with a server that forced me to tip 10%. I usually tip 20-25%.
                    Just because a customer expects you to put some effort into your job, that does not make them an SC.

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                    • #11
                      I'm in the "talk to management" area. If it was me, they would have lost a customer permenantly. If it's a chain, a letter to the hierchy is in order. It's all about what it's worth to you. If the restaurant is in a convieniant location and has served well before, management NEEDS to know when service is slipping. Workers are responsible for their own actions.

                      If it's a mom and Pop.. Mom and Pop need to know about this even more. Some places just SUCK. You avoid them after you find out. Being sucky and beligerant after you find out is for entitlement whores.

                      Leaving no tip after being ignored/getting the wrong food/waiting with no explanation? It's not sucky, it's a natural response.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth draftermatt View Post
                        You did the right thing, but you should go a step farther and take this account of the happenings right up to "I left no tip because the service was so terrible" and add "I never asked for a manager because it was obvious by the way the staff was acting there was no real manager on duty anyway" print it out, and mail it to the restaurant, or call and ask who is the highest person you can speak to, tell them the complaint, and then send the letter.

                        Why though? Isn't not eating there again the simpler solution?
                        Just because a customer expects you to put some effort into your job, that does not make them an SC.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth BaristaTrav View Post
                          Sounds like your restaurant of choice is under new (crappy) managent. The answer is, find a new restaurant. Me personally, would have given the waitress the benefit of the doubt and not completely stiffed her.
                          I wouldn't, even if the restraunt was out of 'everything' there is no excuse for the lack of service this family received.

                          I worked at a restraunt years ago, if we 'ran' out of any of the basics (bread, milk etc) someone was running to the grocery store and paying retail for supplies. Keep in mind this almost never happened. In fact the only time I can even remember anything like this was during a really bad winter (this was in Montana) and supply trucks couldn't get through for a few days. Yes, I understand this isn't the waitress's fault or responsiblity, but she couldn't even be bothered to stay on top of water and condiments???
                          Tamezin

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                          • #14
                            I think you handled it with grace and care, much better than most people, saintly even. Some of what happened, the substitutions, should have been explained to you before they ever thought of doing any such substitution.

                            Sounds like the wait staff was experiencing the tail end of the Mothers Day burnout, a day where most families act like assclowns in the restaurant and all sorts of exotic dysfunction gets trotted out annually. Not that it excuses their inability to be attentive to your needs. They should have.

                            Had to work yesterday too so I went out for an early breakfast alone at the IHOP and got to see the very beginnings of a whole lot of SC beginning and seeing serving staff starting the day with grumbly attitudes. No win situation.
                            "No, I will not poop a shopping cart out for you." - Irving Patrick Freleigh

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                            • #15
                              Quoth LifeCarnie View Post
                              I don't think you were wrong for not tipping. I would have sent the food back myself.

                              I had a recent episode with a server that forced me to tip 10%. I usually tip 20-25%.

                              There wasn't a reason really to return the food, it was somewhat edible, just not like we'd had before. The food quality itself didn't bother me enough to complain-it was after all the evening of Mother's Day and I can understand running out of something when they are still relatively new. This was their first Mother's Day of serving. It was mainly her flippant attitude. I'd already decided I was writing a letter, just so that it's in writing for the manager/owner to deal with. I in no way think this waitress deserves anything more than retraining at this point unless this is her standard way of treating customers. The owner will know that if he's had other complaints on her. If service had been good, she'd have come by and asked how dinner was and I could have replied with, "Well, the food isn't really what we were expecting, but you've been great!" With that she could have easily have gotten a $10-$15 tip. I will always reward great service and sad to say, I've probably reinforced bad service in the past by leaving a normal tip when I really shouldn't have or should have spoken at least.

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