Condescending uppity bitch at Payless

[LostMyMind]

I hate to break it to your protege, the 65mph is the speed limit which means that the fastest you can go. If you look, on most interstates there are min speed signs. And it's usually 40mph. Granted they should be on the left hand lane since they're slower traffic, but they aren't morons for following the law.

That drive me more crazy more than anything else. People thinking that speed limit means minimum speed.

[chainedbarista]

try haiti; no traffic signs to speak of, no streets for the most part. licenses? what are those? don't get me started on lanes...

i've also been told south korea's pretty wild, too.

[protege]

I hate to break it to your protege, the 65mph is the speed limit which means that the fastest you can go. If you look, on most interstates there are min speed signs. And it's usually 40mph. Granted they should be on the left hand lane since they're slower traffic, but they aren't morons for following the law.

That drive me more crazy more than anything else. People thinking that speed limit means minimum speed.

When our speed limit was raised to 55mph back in the mid-90s, the state actually did a study on it. After everything was said and done, the limit was raised...simply because the limits surrounding states (at that time) were 65 anyway, and most drivers were simply going with traffic. It also found that people doing under the limit were holding up traffic.

Most highways in SW PA, except for the turnpike, don't have minimum speed limits posted. It's only 45mph, btw.

I don't know about most people here, but I find it annoying that I'm doing the legal limit, like most people here...and have to constantly slam on the brakes because of people going well under it...who suddenly decide to move into the left (passing) lane. However, these people can, and sometimes are pulled over for impeding the flow of traffic.

[LostMyMind]

I don't know about most people here, but I find it annoying that I'm doing the legal limit, like most people here...and have to constantly slam on the brakes because of people going well under it...who suddenly decide to move into the left (passing) lane. However, these people can, and sometimes are pulled over for impeding the flow of traffic.

Well, they get pulled over and impedes the traffic more Those kind of tickets are rarely successfully won in court. A judge won't fine you for "impeding the flow" of speeders.

I've notice the folks who say, "I follow the speed limit" are the ones also saying "5 miles over is not speeding" as well.

Anyone who gripes about someone following the speed limit because it "impedes" them going faster needs to slow down, nothing is so important that arriving 2 to 3 secs will change the world.

[Rahmota]

After having been in training to be a cop I can tell you that unless the person is going so slow that they are actually causing a threat most cops arn't going to bother with these rolling roadblocks. As long as they are above the minimum speed (which is generally around 45 or so on the interstate and none on the highways in ohio) they are doing a good deed by slowing down the reckless operators thinking its daytona out there. Which that is another thign that makes me mad. The idiots weaving in and out of traffic like they are dale Jr or something. I've been on I75 and doing 60 before and passed by some yahoo doign probably about a hundred. Its insane. And 66mph in a 65 zone is legally defined as excessive speed and can get you a ticket. Though most of the time the officer will let you slide unless you are doing something else that gets their attention, or hes in a bad mood.

Which that does remind me of somethign that happened on one of my ridealongs. We had pulled over a person for doing 60 in a 55. He started getting all peeved and demanded to see the radar gun. Well in Ohio there is no legal requirement for the officer to show you the radar gun. The ticket is all you need to see and legally you have to proove you where not speeding or that there where other extenuating circumstances that would cause the radar unit to misread. Each unit is calibrated at the begining and end of each shift and the courts take that record/word over some rocket jockey wanting toget out of his speeding ticket.

Well the officer I was asigned to told him he was being hostile and was not going to be getting out of his car unless it was to take a ride in the back of ours, and explained the situation to him. A few insults and threats about his lawyers he got a ticket for excessive speed, and a couple other things because he was a jerk and let loose. Of course we put his plates on the radio to let other officers know abnout how big a jerk he was so I hope he was real careful the rest of his drive. I mean ofc. dan was just pulling him over so I could get some experience witha traffic stop (which is arguabley one of the most dangerous times for an officer, cause he has no idea whats waiting for him in the car.) and we where going to give him a warning to slow down when he started getting all hyperbent about how his rights where being trampled and police state BS. I am sorry but you do not have the right to speed., technically you do not have the RIGHT to drive it is a priviledge and if you abuse it then you will pay the price for it.

[K245five]

Being a "Real Man"

I'm sure it really pissed her off a lot more. Being a native and travelling through that state countless times, I've found most Ohioans to be some of the most angry and unfriendly people I've ever met, especially in Toledo where all the blue-collar jobs are being replaced with brand-new Wendy's and Bob Evans restaurants and big-box stores that only lift you halfway off of welfare.

Y'know, Pennsylvania is pretty much the same way as far as the people are concerned. Only difference is that Pennsylvania has a huge elderly population. Heck, the elderly are the worst offenders when it comes to being crabasses here in Pennsylvania! Then, you have the rednecks and blue-collar people who have their ENTIRE identity wrapped up in their job in the steel mill, coal mine, machine shop, etc. and are obsessed with being real man's man type of people! Thus, they act all hard, macho, and tough and come across as bullies.

And, this definitely translates into their driving! The elderly drive very slow and erratic, and the blue-collar and redneck crowd drive like they are aspiring NASCAR drivers, but they don't have anywhere near the skills to cut the mustard. I'm driving on the Interstate and Turnpike, and I'll be doing about 70 or so, and people will STILL be passing me! What's yer hurry, people!?

One last thing here. I don't have anything against anyone who is "blue-collar" and puts in an honest days work with their hands. What i'm getting at in this post is the people who have their whole identity and self-worth tied up in their job, whether it be a steel worker, coal miner, machinist, etc.. In other words, people who seem to take their jobs and their "blue-collar" identity way too seriously. I've seen people in other regions of the country who work in industrial blue-collar labor, but to them, it's just their job, not their whole identity.

Maybe it's just this region of the country(Mid-Atlantic) that breeds people who put a high premium on being tough and acting like a "real man". And perhaps that accounts for all of the anger and unfriendliness.

[ditchdj]

I've kinda pictured Ohioans in general as a stereotypical angry and foul New Yorker with a chip on his shoulder (you know like the kind of guy that likes to go around screaming at people, "I'll kick yo fookin' ass you fooker!" in his spare time) with an Iowa or Minnesota accent.

[Gurndigarn]

One last thing here. I don't have anything against anyone who is "blue-collar" and puts in an honest days work with their hands. What i'm getting at in this post is the people who have their whole identity and self-worth tied up in their job, whether it be a steel worker, coal miner, machinist, etc.. In other words, people who seem to take their jobs and their "blue-collar" identity way too seriously.

Hell, what's really bad is when McDonald's managers wrap their entire identity in their job. It's truely sad to see.

[Mighty Girl]

I've kinda pictured Ohioans in general as a stereotypical angry and foul New Yorker with a chip on his shoulder (you know like the kind of guy that likes to go around screaming at people, "I'll kick yo fookin' ass you fooker!" in his spare time) with an Iowa or Minnesota accent.

You forgot entitlement-minded. Ohioans aren't "angry" until you imply that they aren't entitled to cut you off, take your parking space and give you expicit directions straight to hell.

I've had to adopt a defensive-driving attitude matched by no other ever since my daughter was born. See- now I'm home during the day- you know who else is home during the day? Retirees. And it seems the older they get, the bigger their car gets. I continually get stuck behind some blue hair (yes, that's what we call them) going 20 in a 35 trying to decide where on earth she's going. Then when they do figure it out, their final decision is often to make a right turn from the far left lane, and then look around incredulously as the horns are blaring. And the men? They're way worse, because back in their day, women "knew their place". You should see the looks I get from these old codgers when I pass them- like they want to smack a scarlet letter right on my shirt.

Ok, done ranting (for now).

[friendofjimmyk]

Being a native and travelling through that state countless times, I've found most Ohioans to be some of the most angry and unfriendly people I've ever met, .

HEY, WOAH! I was born in Cleveland, Ohio!!!!

[ditchdj]

HEY, WOAH! I was born in Cleveland, Ohio!!!!

Even my wife noticed the lack of respect people have for each other up there. When we were back in Toledo she told me she was getting ready to turn and a car full of teenagers went by cussing at her and giving her the finger. I just replied, "Welcome to Toledo" because it doesnt shock me at all. One thing I noticed about teaching here is that kids in the schools are much better behaved overall. I was purely shocked when I had a few kids address ME as "Sir"! A far cry from the other "nicknames" kids have for teachers up there such as bitch and faggot. And what's more sad is that people up there think that kind of behavior is acceptable.

[MadMike]

A far cry from the other "nicknames" kids have for teachers up there such as bitch and faggot. And what's more sad is that people up there think that kind of behavior is acceptable.

We had names like that for some of the teachers when I went to school as well. Only difference was, we never said it to their faces.