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    Burger joint, downtown. I'm running a wee bit late. I run late so often these days that on-time is early for me.

    Wow, that is...a very long line. Full of many people. The woman at the counter doesn't look like the brightest wick in the wax, and the kitchen staff, who are visible, seem to have switched to decaf in a moment of misguided solidarity, so I figure I'm camping for a while.

    When I came in, a man and his two kids were standing at one of the registers. I didn't hear what was going on, but after a moment, the man went and stood in line behind everyone else. So...there's only one line, then, with Slowpoke McGillicuddy on register and a dozen people in the lobby. Maybe the manager could throw a little backup out onto the floor...

    I'm waiting in line directly behind the man and his two kids. Addendum - the large, soft-spoken, older black man and his two reasonably-well-behaved-for-a-fast-food-joint pre-adolescents. There is a reason for this level of detail which will become clear in a moment.

    Finally, the man reaches the front of the line, and the clerk looks cow-eyed at him and asks what he'll have, which the manager pre-empts with a "No. You're not serving them." To the man, he said, "If you're going to be rude, you'll have to leave."

    Cue the sound of a record needle skipping across the surface of the record. I swear, it was so harsh that I thought it was a joke. These two know each other, I thought, and this is one of their little jokes. After all, I've been standing behind this gentleman for five minutes and have seen no obstreporous behavior whatsoever. So, surely, we will all have a big laugh and a hearty handshake and the order will be taken and we'll all get on with our day.

    Nope. The manager meant it. He reiterated his insistence that the soft-spoken man and his two enthusiastic youngsters leave the premises, and then a third time. After which, the soft-spoken man said in his soft-spoken voice, "Please!" And then the manager escalated. "We have three people here who won't leave after being warned..." And the man fled with his two boys.

    What the hell did I miss?

    So I'm standing there in front of the clerk with my eyebrows meeting in the middle and my jaw hanging open and she says, "Can I help you?"

    "Uh...no," I said, and left.

    Was I just witness to a racially-motivated discrimination incident? I've never seen a manager get angrier at a customer for less reason. If the gentleman had been obnoxious while standing at the closed register, that might have been one thing, but what I saw was a man standing quietly in line and encouraging his two boys to do the same, for better than five minutes, with no attempts to remove him until he was at the counter. Even the lady at the counter, not the most conscious of elements in the drama, looked a bit taken aback.

    And as I started to convince myself that race might have been a factor, the thought of eating there again just made me feel sick. I'm not entirely convinced that I missed much of the drama, though. It seemed to me that I picked up enough detail to get the general plot.

    I hate the thought of writing a letter to the owners of the burger joint, because, to me, racially-motivated incidents are heinous enough that I'd want to be certain to have my facts straight before making noise about them. I even wrote this post as carefully as I could.

    If the guy had been pounding on the counter while his two boys swung from the ceiling, that would have been a different animal, but hanging out here has given me some insight into SC behavior - and I just wasn't seeing it.

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  • #2
    Is there a chance that they may have been problem customers in the past?

    I change my mind. Since moving from NC, I learned that racism actually exists.

    It's a sad, sad world.
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    • #3
      Sounds like that manager needs to get with the times. It's 2010, not 1960.

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      • #4
        What a dickhead. (the manager that is)

        I know we've had problems in the past with the indigenous people in Australia, but we haven't refused service to them simply because of that.
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        • #5
          If you're that convinced that that guy's turfing was racially motivated, complain to the owners of the burger joint anyway. That kind of treatment should not be tolerated, and from what you described, there was no "rudeness" from him that would've been worth that.

          Methinks somebody's sheets are showing.
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          • #6
            Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
            If you're that convinced that that guy's turfing was racially motivated, complain to the owners of the burger joint anyway. That kind of treatment should not be tolerated, and from what you described, there was no "rudeness" from him that would've been worth that.

            Methinks somebody's sheets are showing.
            I'm going to go ahead with the letter. I keep trying to tell myself that maybe the guy was shouting up a storm before I came in, and I just missed that bit, but it's the "let them stand quietly in line for five minutes before turfing them" that sort of puts the lie to that.

            The reason I keep trying to tell myself that is because I find the behavior that I did see so hard to believe. I've never seen anything like that before in my life. (Lucky me...) And this was at a downtown burger joint in an area with a large minority population. At least half the people in line, and at least a third of the employees on duty, at any given time, are minority. So my mind is just continuously trying to reject what it saw.

            And, as I'm writing this, there's a little voice on the other side saying, "Are you absolutely sure that this is the only time you saw something like that in that burger joint? Because there was this one other time...remember?" Oh, crap.

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            • #7
              Go with your gut. Report the facts--what you saw to the owners. You saw a well-behaved customer. You saw, for a full five minutes, a customer wait quietly in line. You saw the look on the cashier's face. Who cares what may or may not have happened before? You saw a not-rude customer accused of something he didn't do. The owners need to know exactly why they lost your business that day.
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              • #8
                I agree. The home office needs to know about stuff like this.
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                • #9
                  It is had to say for sure what happened before, maybe the customer was causing legitimate problems before and was not served for that reason. Best to let someone higher up know about it higher up and let them investigate.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth mattm04 View Post
                    It is had to say for sure what happened before, maybe the customer was causing legitimate problems before and was not served for that reason. Best to let someone higher up know about it higher up and let them investigate.
                    Given that he waited for 5 minutes, I'm not so sure about that...

                    And usually those sort of things are alerted to by a ban notice.
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                    • #11
                      If I were you, I'd also send a copy of that letter to the media. There may have been other customers who were treated in that disgusting fashion.
                      The report button - not just for decoration

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                      • #12
                        I wonder if something didn't happen before you walked-in that instigated that; but seeing as how the gentleman was waiting so patiently, I really believe the manager was just being a racist dick. I even wonder if he mistook the gentleman for someone they'd previously had problems with. Overall though, it just doesn't seem right.
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                        • #13
                          Keep us updated.
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                          • #14
                            Something similar happened with my grandfather in the 60s. He left the restaurant after they refused to serve his coworker.

                            That manager sounds like a racist son of a bitch.

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                            • #15
                              or report it to the local papers

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