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Wands and athames serve two very different purposes, and are not interchangeable. You can't sub a broom for a toothbrush..Quoth ralerin View Postfireheart: They are legal to sell-but you need ID and to be over 18 to buy them. Why Herne doesn't use a wand is beyond me-it serves the same purpose except you can't carve things.
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That girl needs some good disciplining.
Do not fuck around in pagan stores. I mean, in anyone's store, but still. That is... Like, holy shit. That's just horrid. I don't think its hate crime, though. I think its just plain a crime.
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Unlikely. Courts don't have much sympathy for people who come to court with "dirty hands." That the brat was arrested for causing damage, and injured fighting with the cops will not endear her to any judge.Quoth Merriweather View PostWith some of the ridiculous lawsuits I've seen in recent years, I just hope the parents don't try to sue the shop for her self-inflicted injuries (absurd, I know, but I've heard of worse suits winning).
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I SO agree. If I owned/ran a small shop, just one item of any value damaged, and they'd have the option to pay up and leave, or have the cops called.Quoth MoonCat View PostHoly sh*t. Cops should have been called right from the get-go. That brat is out of control.
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With some of the ridiculous lawsuits I've seen in recent years, I just hope the parents don't try to sue the shop for her self-inflicted injuries (absurd, I know, but I've heard of worse suits winning).
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So very true. I would love to buy some of that stuff,but I have no place to put them. Our mall once had a store with all native american artifacts,and another store with all chinese items (live bamboo plants,jade items etc) It's always fun to browse in those kinds of stores, but it's so tempting to buy stuff you don't needQuoth Kogarashi View Post(after all, those kind of shops are very interesting to visit, even if you don't follow the same beliefs)
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Not sure how old TG was, but I hope SHE is the one stuck paying for the damage, dime by dime. And heck, a good chunk of hours community service cleaning up after the brattiness of others.
I hope she wasn't injured much, if only for the store's sake. I'm sure she'll argue how terribly she was treated and how she has a store-caused boo boo.
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Yeah, sounds like the girl and her friends were having some "fun" (after all, those kind of shops are very interesting to visit, even if you don't follow the same beliefs), got out of hand as teenagers are wont to do, and then pitched a huge fit when called on it by the employees. Earmarks of a tantrum, possibly by a girl used to getting her way all the time.
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Unless she specifically made references to the Pagan nature of the store when throwing her shitfit, a hate crimes charge isn't going to stick.Quoth Captain Trips View Post
I bear no hope that this girl will apologize (or not at least for 40 years, see my paranthetical above), and I hope that this gets treated as a hate crime! Actions taken against ANY religion, just because it's different than your own, IS a hate crime!
I'm with Syriilord. Sounds like the girl threw a fit just to throw a fit.
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That's why the surveillance video is a good thing. Especially in a store that sells high-end, unusual merchandise.Quoth LillFilly View PostSounds like that kid has some behavioral/emotional/anger management problems. I hope the parents don't let her out of their sight for quite some time! 50/50 chance they'll deny their little snowflake would EVER behave that way though!
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that trial. I hope the judge throws the whole library at her!
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Trips: I don't think this was a religious thing. It seems to have been more of a spoiled little b*tch thing. I (and most of the people here) see kids run wild in stores and throw tantrums when they don't get their way far too often. This just seems to be the logical outcome of one of these kids growing into a teen without the proper discipline to correct that behaviour.
While worrying, it is not surprising (to me at least). Given current observable trends in "parenting", I'm afraid we'll probably hear more and more about incidents like this caused by "Little Precious".
May whatever Deities/Governing Forces you believe in have mercy on us sane, rational folk and our offspring. We're fast becoming a minority ourselves
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I can just hear her defense in court: "But it's OKAY, your Honor, they're PAGANS!"
(I can hear it because someone used the same excuse for giving me a hard time in grade school, but substitute "He's a Jew" for "they're Pagan." The teacher's response? "So am I.") (40 years later, she sought me out on Facebook with an apology, that she is different, realized how much pain it caused, and that she is now grown up and has realized that prejudice has no place in modern society. How could I not accept it?)
I bear no hope that this girl will apologize (or not at least for 40 years, see my paranthetical above), and I hope that this gets treated as a hate crime! Actions taken against ANY religion, just because it's different than your own, IS a hate crime!
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Mine is made of wood. My best friend carved it out of a tree root he found years ago now. The things fits into my hand almost perfectly.
Of course, it also now mostly sits on a table next to my stone collection and various display weapons I've collected.
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I've decided that within the next five years I will make an athame with a silver blade. I made some silver jewelry years ago, and the thought of making my own athame from scratch gives me joy.
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I'm not 100% sure of the law here in Ausland, but I know that to buy the swords that my local game store sells you need to be 18 and older. I think the same applies to my boyfriend's Viking group.Quoth ralerin View Postfireheart: They are legal to sell-but you need ID and to be over 18 to buy them. Why Herne doesn't use a wand is beyond me-it serves the same purpose except you can't carve things.
a book I found at the library gives instructions on how to make your own athame.
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