Well that's one way to get revenge!

[Sparky]

Why were there only two people working? Where were the other employees?

If the owner just refused to schedule more people because he was a cheapskate, the other employees are probably not losing all that much. And if they were short staffed because the other employees called out at the last minute, or no one wanted to work, maybe it kind of serves them right too.

In any case, can't blame her one bit.

[Pagan]

I would have loved to see the look on Mr. Bossman's face when he was informed that she had pulled her license!

My question would be wether or not she communicated with the owner when she got into work that 2 people would not be enough, or if she remained silent.

If she'd tried to get help and was refused, then yes, I'd be all for her leaving them high and dry.

From the way it sounds, I don't see when she would have had time to try to call anybody in.

If he treats a partner this way, I can only imagine how he treats lowly employees.

We might see her as a partner because she holds the liquor license, but I don't think Mr. Bossman did. He was treating her as a "lowly employee".

[BeenThereDoneThat]

She had no legal choice but to pull her liquor license from use in that pub, whether she had to have them revoke it for everyone including herself or only for them since she didn't work there anymore. It's about time that guy was taught a good, hard lesson on why you don't treat good people like dirt. I can't really speak for the other employees but if he was that much of a dickhead to her, he probably was to them too, and despite any problems the whole thing might have caused them, if I worked there I'd be on her side. So sorry your friend had to go through that...

[PepperElf]

I too agree with her actions.

They put her in a bad position with a mountain of work she could not humanly get down and then treated her like shit over it in front of everyone.

Plus they SUSPENDED her. That right there in my opinion should have revoked their right to use her license. ... I mean by law, if she's suspended from the establishment how can they have any claim to her license?


I say they got what they asked for.

[EricKei]

While I would definitely like to hear back from crml about WHY only two people were working that night (was it 2 scheduled? or only 2 showed up? Big difference, and it was the BigBoss/MOD's responsibility to call in more people BEFORE her shift, either way)...

I am not familiar with the legalities of how the licensing works -- but, if she no longer had a job there, then I would have to assume that the license goes with her. The Boss should have made alternative provisions for this a LONG time ago.

Yes, it does suck that the other workers will suffer in the short term ... but that is the BOSS'S fault more than anyone else's. While the place could technically remain open and just not serve alcohol, I would not envy the unfortunate workers trying to deal with an absolute FLOOD of people who want to get their drink on, all day and all night. A few enforced days off MIGHT even be preferable.

[Ironclad Alibi]

The OP was in the UK, but I believe in the US, at least in Virginia, an ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control) manager has to be duty at all times. I frequently see a list of 4-6 names under the heading "ABC Managers" posted in restaurants.

[crazylegs]

IIRC the DPS (the named person who has a licence 'Designated Premises Supervisor') doesn't have to be on duty all the time but they do have to be in a position to effectively supervise the licenced premises, so even on suspension the pub would have been on exceedingly dodgy ground.

As it is as there is no DPS there is no sale of alcohol until such time as a DPS can be brought in.

I think she's done exactly the right thing, anyone who treats people like Bossman did needs a good kick in the nuts (or his wallet, which appears to hurt more!).

[Sapphire Silk]

We might see her as a partner because she holds the liquor license, but I don't think Mr. Bossman did. He was treating her as a "lowly employee".

If she doesn't have a partnership agreement with the owner, she's an employee not a partner.

He still treated her like shit. I would have quit, too. I don't think she did anything inappropriate.

At best, she should have given him 2 weeks notice, but since he suspended her I don't really see how she was obligated to.

[customersruinmylife]

I have a tiny little update on this story.

I went to the pub I work at for a few drinks last night, and found it to be extremelly over-crowded. The staff were run off their feet and there was practically a line out the door. This was due to the pub STILL not being reopen for business, and their customers flocking down to us.

Thank God I was very tipsy before I arrived! They attempted to ask me to help but didn't get a coherent response hehe

[customersruinmylife]

Another update.

The pub is open again. I walked past it last night. It had a massive "GRAND RE-OPENING!!" poster in the window, and they had employed several door staff to watch the doors. There wasn't a single customer inside, and the staff were sat around a table looking like they were falling asleep.

[Draco]

Wonder how long the new person he suckered gets tired of his crap and quits.

[XCashier]

Wonder how long the new person he suckered gets tired of his crap and quits.

I'm wondering that too. Or when the employee in the OP tells the new "partner" about the owner's shenanigans. There's all sorts of things wrong with that business (why on earth would you open a PUB if you cannot legally have a liquor license?! And why would anyone continue working for him when they see how he treated the liquor license holder?)

[emax4]

I don't know if it was the really the "right" thing for her to do. Right for who? Her? the business? I didn't think she deserved to be berated like that in front of the staff. Has that been an ongoing issue with that manager? I'm glad that she did take the license with her, but.. if she's still struggling to find a job, that license can be her trump card back in the place. She can look elsewhere unless the manager treats her better, gets better staffing, can recognize and appreciate hard work, and praise his workers when they do a good job. Until then, he's sinking fast...

[PepperElf]

I'm wondering that too. Or when the employee in the OP tells the new "partner" about the owner's shenanigans. There's all sorts of things wrong with that business (why on earth would you open a PUB if you cannot legally have a liquor license?! And why would anyone continue working for him when they see how he treated the liquor license holder?)

assuming they really HAVE a new partner with a license.

Do they have to display the license in the pub? Might be worth taking a peek at to ensure your friend's name isn't still on it. Or if they even have one

[Beckpatton]

assuming they really HAVE a new partner with a license.

Do they have to display the license in the pub? Might be worth taking a peek at to ensure your friend's name isn't still on it. Or if they even have one

IIRC the licence should be displayed above the entry door, that's where it was at my old pub back when I was in London, and I remember seeing it displayed the same way at other pubs.

I actually held a liquor licence for about 2 weeks back in the day. I was assistant manager and the actual manager was going on leave, putting me in charge. Because of that the brewery who owned us wanted someone on the premises to be licenced. I don't remember the specifics, if it was a legal requirement or just company policy. But I felt very special for those 2 weeks! LOL!