So, who decides what's healthy for everyone?

[dalesys]

There's All Live Food... aka the Zombie Diet.

[Sapphire Silk]

I took a gander at the most recent batch of customer survey comments. One was about our groceries. Someone told us to get rid of "junk food" and have more healthy stuff, like free-range meat and gluten-free and I forget what else. The comment said something about us catering to the majority with our "junk".

If she doesn't like your food, she can shop somewhere else. And if your store did change its stock to reflect a place like Whole Foods or Trader Joes, then she'd complain about the expense. You can't have it both ways.

I'd be the first to agree that processed foods aren't good for you. But they're OK on an occasional basis when you want a day off from cooking. And conventionally produced meats, fruits, veggies are perfectly OK, just as good as "organic" products. True, there are issues with antibiotics, pesticides, preservatives, etc in our food . . . but from a nutritional standpoint most fresh foods are comparable with organic foods.

It's a strongly flavoured meat. The 'common' meat it's least unlike is beef, and if I was planning a meal with kangaroo, I'd use the same sorts of additional flavours to go with it.

Very interesting. I would definately try 'roo if I had the chance. I didn't think buffalo was all that, but I don't think it was cooked in the best way, either.

I'm one of those who think "organic" is junk, so I appreciate you having the non-organic meats and veggies.

EE, you don't think organic is junk. You think it is a scam. And you have a point; it often costs more in energy to produce "organic" foods than it does to import them from the Southern Hemisphere in order to have certain foods year round.

[It's me]

Yep, ran into that one too.

Thanks for the advice. I should also mention that I was diagnosed as Type II Diabetic, so I have to maintain a stable carb intake.

I have been on the ADA Exchange or "Constant Carb" diet. I am down 65lbs since last March. Blood pressure is good and I am now pre-diabetic.

65lbs, woot, way to go!

I get what you are saying about carbs... I'm newly diagnosed T2 and have found that I have a very low tolerance for starchy or sugary food. As in 20g of plain oatmeal will push my BG past 10 (185 for US folks). So right now my interest in learning about diet is driving my family batty!

Google "Gary Taubes diabetes" (I mentioned him already) and "Richard Johnson diabetes" for a ton of science behind insulin, blood sugar, and diabetes.

[Pixilated]

If she doesn't like your food, she can shop somewhere else. *large snip*

Yep. Ya don't like what they carry, go somewhere else. The door opens both ways.

[Food Lady]

Had the complaint said something like, "In addition to your existing products, I'd like more alternatives that I enjoy, such as free-range and gluten-free food." I'd be all for it... it's the "replace the stuff I don't personally enjoy with stuff I do enjoy" that makes it EW-ish and self-centered.

Exactly. And sms, That's what I was thinking!

[rapana1]

I tried buffalo for the first time last week. The Fella, The Kat and meself went out for a pub dinner, and I had a buffalo burger. Quite nice!
I've also had ostrich (white meat texture, red meat looks and flavour) and there's a burger joint in town that sells kangaroo meat sausages as a side order. Damn tasty.

[SongsOfDragons]

There was an ostrich burger van parked nicely in my parent's village's local Christmas market last year. Most of the residents of Epworth are old fogies (and most of the tourists are Wesleyan Methodists!! ) so they were looking at this with a sense of confusion...

I was their first customer of the day at about 11am. Om nom!! I agree with the judge of combination of red and white, it's really weird, but was very tasty.

In the UK, I may be wrong but as far as I know all our eggs now have to be free-range, either by law or by the orange supermarket which we always shop at refusing to carry battery any more. So the entire selection of eggs are huge golden yolks for £1.70 for six. A Yank friend couldn't believe it...

[Geek King]

I tried buffalo for the first time last week. The Fella, The Kat and meself went out for a pub dinner, and I had a buffalo burger. Quite nice!
I've also had ostrich (white meat texture, red meat looks and flavour) and there's a burger joint in town that sells kangaroo meat sausages as a side order. Damn tasty.

Buffalo is great, I was unhappy when Smokey Bones stopped having it on the menu. I also like alligator, but I've not seen that much outside of Florida.

[BeeMused]

It feels like I'm taking my life in my hands to wander outside the produce section nowadays.

Yeh, low sodium diet means "no ready made/convience food" diet, it means careful with bread too, as it's quite high in sodium as well. On the plus side... salt binds water in your body, so it'll help you to lose weight as well.

Meh... small print ingredients list readers R'us

[Rock Lobster]

Anyone over the age of 18 (here in the states) can make their own decisions about what to eat. You can also consult your doctor. Otherwise everyone can keep their nose out of my plate!

I lost two entire pant sizes by cutting out salt and frozen foods!

[EvilEmpryss]

We've got a pizza place in our city that has alligator, buffalo, ostrich, and just about any other animal ever eaten by man that you can chose for toppings.

And Fudruckers has boar, buffalo, and ostrich burgers on their standard menu around here.

[PepperElf]

OK, first, who is this person to decide what is junk and what isn't? Free-range or not, meat is not healthy for me. Some people can't have gluten, but it isn't junk for me. For some of us, it's a viable protein source. If this person doesn't want to eat chips, that's just fine, but some of us would like to buy them occasionally. It's subjective and personal, what food one buys.

Unfortunately there's a lot of people in society who want to dictate stuff like this to others.

Part of the issue is that sometimes individuals decide their way is the "moral" way and therefore they have a right to dictate to others. Even if their "rules" don't work well with someone else's dietary needs or desires.


And yeah, I can't see spending $$$ for something organic when planning out shopping. Sometimes it just doesn't fit the budget.


Although for eggs... well I don't buy free-range-organic etc eggs. I mean they're not labeled as such, but I also know they're not coming from factories either. Cos we normally get our eggs from a local Amish farm. Now technically "Amish" doesn't mean "organic" but IIRC the farms here have regular hen coops etc.

but the real reason we get them.... they're cheaper than the grocery store "factory" eggs.

[Miss Maple Leaf]

We've got a pizza place in our city that has alligator, buffalo, ostrich, and just about any other animal ever eaten by man that you can chose for toppings.

And Fudruckers has boar, buffalo, and ostrich burgers on their standard menu around here.

Where do you live? I must visit! *Will try almost anything once, especially new meats that she's never had before*

[EvilEmpryss]

North Carolina. I imagine Fudruckers should have the same menu everywhere, being a national chain. The pizza place is called The Pie Works, but I'm not certain if it's a local thing.

[csquared]

Unfortunately there's a lot of people in society who want to dictate stuff like this to others.

Part of the issue is that sometimes individuals decide their way is the "moral" way and therefore they have a right to dictate to others. Even if their "rules" don't work well with someone else's dietary needs or desires.

Which then leads us to government regulations, which leads to fracting.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that MY OWN dietary needs conflict with each other.

As IPF said, if you don't like what this store offers, shop someplace that offers what you want. Although, I am betting, they shop at Food Lady's place because they don't want to pay the price of a Whole Foods. They want healthy and they want it cheap.