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    It always seems to be the out-of-state plates. Always. I understand not having absolute familiarity with a particular region and its traffic peculiarities, but these examples take it a step farther; if I am approaching any of these intersections, and I see a car with out-of-state plates, something exciting is about to happen. This isn't confirmation bias - this is every time.

    Location: Exit Two onramp
    Out-of-state plate: Massachusetts

    Until relatively recently, one had to turn left at this intersection to go northbound on the Interstate. It was a pain in the ass; no light control, heavy traffic, so they built that lovely elongated loop from the right-hand lane, and added a traffic light to the southbound off-ramp. It was a masterstroke of civil engineering; with one build, they cleared all congestion on Route 9.

    That didn't stop this driver from aggressively bulling his way up to the traffic light, discovering he had nowhere to go, and, the second the light changed, squealed in front of all other cars, leaped over the median strip between the on-ramp and the road, scattering plastic bollards like ninepins, and coming within inches of getting T-boned by the car that was using the ramp as it was intended. I would swear his tires left the ground. The weird thing is, if you have a look at the map, he had a second opportunity to use the on-ramp around the corner without doing grievous bodily harm to his undercarriage...

    Location: Exit Seven
    Out-of-state plate: New Hampshire

    If there's ever a police chase in Maine, and the suspect has New Hampshire plates, I hope the cops think to send him down Exit Seven. This thing is like a rat-trap for New Hampshire drivers. The off-ramp is light-controlled, but so is the Franklin/Marginal intersection, and the sync between the two lights is very odd. Four lanes: one left, one right, two straight ahead, and I have yet to see a New Hampshire truck hit the right one on the first try. Earlier today, I saw a truck stopped in the middle of the intersection, cars streaming around him in all directions, and I thought, "Bet he has New Hampshire plates."

    Yep.

    Location: Downtown traffic rotary
    Out-of-state plate: Connecticut

    My doctor told me this one.

    This is a tiny traffic rotary in the heart of a quiet little town. The rotary sees, maybe, twenty cars an hour, but it's fairly crucial to downtown traffic flow, as you might imagine, so the city took that into account when they decided to do some Ocean Street construction and shut that road down entirely between D and E.

    This apparently confused a Connecticut driver who did a couple of bewildered laps of the traffic rotary, and then tried to take Ocean Street anyway, whereupon he hit the Jersey barrier designed to prevent this with sufficient force to disable his car, blocking the entire intersection. My doctor is not a temperamental man - he's put up with my hypochondria for nearly a year, after all - but he explained this as the reason he was late for our appointment that day, and not in a tone of voice that implied serenity.

  • #2
    I was in your area a few weeks ago. My co-worker (from Missouri) and I (Utah) both agreed that it was one of the best places we had visited.


    I think the guy from Massachusetts lives near me. He sounds like someone I saw. I pulled up to a red light (had been red long before I got to it.) The car behind me honked his horn, drove over the median strip, flipped me off while still holding his horn, and forced the cars that had the green light to slam on their breaks as he drove though the intersection on the wrong side of the road.


    Exit Seven took me all of 3 seconds to figure out. It wasn't that bad... as long as you look more than 20 feet in front of you.

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    • #3
      Bwahahahahaha.

      I love watching out of towners. I grew up driving all through New England, and I'm generally pretty good at reading the lanes and turns. But it drives my (New Yorker) husband nuts. He hates rotaries, and thinks that Massachusetts is out to get him.

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      • #4
        Our city historically was four separate towns, and those towns did not talk to each other before plotting out streets, so we have some interesting intersections where the old towns pushed into each other. Hubs complains all the time about them. It's easy to get mixed up in certain neighborhoods if you aren't familiar.

        Of course it isn't as bad as the unincorporated county neighborhood I grew up in. According to one friend's theory, they gave a drunken monkey a map and a marker and let him scribble, and that's how they planned the streets. They recently went through a massive renaming of the streets as well. Before, they had such creative names as "Beaver Dr, Beaver St, Beaver Loop, Beaver Creek Dr, Beaver Creek St, Beaver Creek Cir, Beaver Creek Loop, Beaver Creek Ct, Little Beaver Dr, Little Beaver St"...and when they run out of beavers, just replace it with "Mountain" or "Lake" or "Valley" or "Strawberry" and repeat again, sometimes with a few "Easts" and "Wests" and such thrown in for good measure, and that's how it the streets were all named. There were just SO many lost visitors out there...

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        • #5
          Quoth KiaKat View Post
          Bwahahahahaha.

          I love watching out of towners. I grew up driving all through New England, and I'm generally pretty good at reading the lanes and turns. But it drives my (New Yorker) husband nuts. He hates rotaries, and thinks that Massachusetts is out to get him.
          Heh. I grew up near Augusta, which, just to horrify your husband, has this: Memorial Bridge

          Yes, that's right - TWO traffic rotaries, one across from the other. Augusta is pretty small, but it's a major traffic hub. Check out how many feeders each one has, too. Look at all those route designations on that bridge; by the time you've read all that, you've forgotten where you were going. And the high school was on one of those rotaries. If you couldn't navigate them, no driver's license for you.

          It took a while for me to figure out why Mass drivers seem so crazy. (Don't they rank like 47 out of 50 states for driver safety?) It's because they drive too close together. They're used to it, so they don't notice, but the interstate in Mass is noticeably narrower than the interstate in Maine, and Boston streets are miniscule. Drivers in other states respond to street signs and road rules; drivers in Mass respond more to each other. Then they come to Maine, and start crowding and pacing drivers here; the drivers respond as Maine drivers would, and try to back off, only to find the Mass driver continuing to pace and crowd.

          I live with a Mass driver; I've actually seen him get lost when he has the road to himself, because he's so used to traveling like herring in a school. He says for real crazy-aggressive drivers, I should check out Providence. Apparently those people are NUTZ.

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          • #6
            Quoth Ben_Who View Post
            Heh. I grew up near Augusta, which, just to horrify your husband, has this: Memorial Bridge

            Yes, that's right - TWO traffic rotaries, one across from the other. Augusta is pretty small, but it's a major traffic hub. Check out how many feeders each one has, too. Look at all those route designations on that bridge; by the time you've read all that, you've forgotten where you were going. And the high school was on one of those rotaries. If you couldn't navigate them, no driver's license for you.
            Dammit. Had a whole thing about a local rotary with a similar setup, and deleted it by accident. Suffice it to say that upstate NY has a love for the number 9, and a weird obsession with merging the various route 9s in weird ways.

            It took a while for me to figure out why Mass drivers seem so crazy. (Don't they rank like 47 out of 50 states for driver safety?) It's because they drive too close together. They're used to it, so they don't notice, but the interstate in Mass is noticeably narrower than the interstate in Maine, and Boston streets are miniscule. Drivers in other states respond to street signs and road rules; drivers in Mass respond more to each other. Then they come to Maine, and start crowding and pacing drivers here; the drivers respond as Maine drivers would, and try to back off, only to find the Mass driver continuing to pace and crowd.
            That makes so much sense. And is a little terrifying, because I think the same thing happens in NY. But NYers are used to navigating pedestrians, as well, so they have a bit more consideration for space. Huh.
            Last edited by KiaKat; 04-21-2014, 07:13 PM.

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            • #7
              Eeeep! I'm certain the UDiOTs here have sent out study teams so they can run those "designs" through a rototiller to "improve" them.
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              • #8
                If we're discussing strange roundabout configurations:

                The Swindon "Magic Roundabout"
                http://www.swindonweb.com/index.asp?m=8&s=115&ss=289

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                • #9
                  Quoth greek_jester View Post
                  The Swindon "Magic Roundabout"
                  http://www.swindonweb.com/index.asp?m=8&s=115&ss=289

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                  • #10
                    The original Spaghetti Junction is:

                    Gravelly Hill Interchange, the intersection of the M6 motorway, A38(M) motorway, A38 road and A5127 road above two railway lines, three canals and two rivers.
                    However, as I understand it, it is quite well signposted - all you have to do is get into the right lanes at the right times, following the road number and destination you want to end up with:



                    A roundabout at each end of a bridge, with 4-6 exits on each, would be entirely normal in Europe. Of course, since there are a lot more of them in general here, drivers have plenty of opportunity to get used to them. There is also a particular style of signage which is intended to make them easier to navigate:

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                    • #11
                      There's the Spaghetti Bowl in El Paso that doesn't look that bad. Except that if you find yourself on one particular fly-over, I hope you have your passport with you because you're going to Juárez. It confuses even the locals.

                      Quoth bhskittykatt View Post
                      Of course it isn't as bad as the unincorporated county neighborhood I grew up in. According to one friend's theory, they gave a drunken monkey a map and a marker and let him scribble, and that's how they planned the streets.

                      [insert beaver jokes here]
                      Ah, yes. We refer to those as the "drunk donkey" streets here.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth greek_jester View Post
                        If we're discussing strange roundabout configurations:

                        The Swindon "Magic Roundabout"
                        http://www.swindonweb.com/index.asp?m=8&s=115&ss=289

                        That is all. Thank you.
                        But...I...that...

                        Hm.

                        Okay, first of all, correct for the fact that they drive on the other side of the road...

                        Second picture shows which way the cars are facing...

                        ...

                        Ah.

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                        • #13
                          I have found that this one is not too much fun for people not used to it...Keep in mind that it used to be a more standard "4-way major stop with lights" and one of our most lethal intersections in the area. People still get confused by it at times (e.g., trying to turn left from a "straight only" lane and hitting the stone triangles in there as a result)
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                          • #14
                            try a roundabout with a train line through the middle...

                            https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37..../data=!3m1!1e3

                            (it's not a major rd, but still a bit of a trip)

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                            • #15
                              Quoth EricKei View Post
                              I have found that
                              this one is not too much fun for people not used to it.
                              My god, that hurt my brain looking at it from the google image!
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