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  • #31
    Quoth wolfie View Post
    Don't know if it applied then, but now POSSESSION of alcohol in a commercial motor vehicle is illegal (U.S.). If that situation had happened after I got into trucking, both possibilities for what happened before the cop got there would have been offenses on the part of the driver.

    Even "way back when", it would have been useful to call the company the truck belonged to (assuming it wasn't an independent O/O) and let them know that their driver who T-boned a house was drunk when he did it, and proceeded to chug a few more beers afterward.
    possession of *open* booze containers. Sealed is still OK in vehicles. Even cops and judges have to get the beer home to drink it.
    EVE Online: 99% of the time you sit around waiting for something to happen, but that 1% of action is what hooks people like crack, you don't get interviewed by the BBC for a WoW raid.

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    • #32
      possession of *open* booze containers. Sealed is still OK in vehicles. Even cops and judges have to get the beer home to drink it.
      Even in *commercial* vehicles? Not that it much matters; certainly they were open after he drank the beers.
      Now the trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed.

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      • #33
        Quoth HYHYBT View Post
        Even in *commercial* vehicles? Not that it much matters; certainly they were open after he drank the beers.
        it would probably depend on where the beers were. In the cab, then I don't know. If they were in a trailer, or whatever the equivalent is called on the smaller trucks, then almost certainly not. Beer still has to get to the shops, after all.

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        • #34
          Quoth sstabeler View Post
          it would probably depend on where the beers were. In the cab, then I don't know. If they were in a trailer, or whatever the equivalent is called on the smaller trucks, then almost certainly not. Beer still has to get to the shops, after all.
          Of course.
          Now the trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed.

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          • #35
            In the U.S., the ONLY way to legally transport alcohol in a COMMERCIAL motor vehicle is for it to be on the manifest/BOL as cargo. If it's not on the manifest, it doesn't matter if the container is open, or if the factory seal is intact. Doesn't matter if it's in a cupholder within the driver's reach, or in a toolbox where you need to get out of the vehicle to get at it.

            Full trailer of Jack Daniels, to be delivered to the LCBO? No problem - just make sure you have the hazmat placards in place (the alcohol content is high enough for it to be classed as a flammable liquid). Six-pack of beer in the step box (combined step up to the cab/storage box)? You're in a heap of trouble.

            People have been nailed when they bought booze at the duty-free before crossing into Canada (less than 1/4 mile of travel before they reach the border, at which point factory-sealed containers not accessible to the driver have the same legal status as in a private car). Bonus points if they didn't "flag" the stop at the duty-free in their log.
            Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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