Living anti-social

[zigcat]

This happened to a co-worker but it really pissed me the fuck off!

First let me start by saying. If you're just walking in to pick up a pizza I don't necessarily expect you to tip. It's a nice, appreciated gesture but all I did was walk your pizza to the counter. If, on the other hand, you're dining in and people are waiting on you THEN my expectations go up just a little especially if you've left a big fucking mess.

A family of five comes in and orders for dine in. A large pizza, some cheesy bread sticks, a salad and some sodas. We get their order made, get it out to them. Everything seems fine.

About twenty minutes later, some lanky skinny dude comes up to the counter. My co-worker goes to assist him.

CW=Co-Worker
SC=

CW: How was everything?
SC: It was all right.
CW: Looks like you're total will be $29.50

SC whips out a LivingSocial voucher. Pay $10 for $20 worth of food.

CW: All right looks like $9.50 then.

SC hands her a credit card.

CW: Be right back. Did you need your copy of the receipt?
SC: Yeah

She runs the credit card, takes the card, receipt and pen back to the SC. He starts to fill out the receipt then looks up at her.

SC: I COULD tip you.
CW: That's entirely up to you.
SC (Slides the receipt back to her, a cocky grin on his face) Heh, heh!

She just looked at him, took the receipt, put it in the register, waited for them to leave then told us what just happened.

Wow.

Look, asshole, if you're not gonna tip, just DON'T tip! But don't stand there and act all coy about it especially when you got to feed your family a full on pizza dinner for a great price.

And, of course, they left a big fucking mess.

And that is why I DESPISE any kind of "daily deal" voucher bullshit. It always brings out the bottom feeding bargain hunters who would NEVER frequent your place if they had to pay anywhere NEAR full price.

Boss feels the same way. No more vouchers.

[sms001]

Boss feels the same way. No more vouchers.

Awesome!

And I agree with both points. Although I'll use coupons/vouchers etc., especially to try someplace new, I treat it like any other dining out. And I tip on the full amount, not the total after discount. That said, people who "tease" or joke about tips are asshats. And all too often you do see one hit wonders that the coupon drags in, never to be seen again.

[aulocksmith]

Ouch. That has to hurt, and is one of the reasons I refuse to even look at those coupon sites. The 2nd reason is I just know that entitlement whores are waiting to come out of the woodwork.

And that is why I DESPISE any kind of "daily deal" voucher bullshit. It always brings out the bottom feeding bargain hunters who would NEVER frequent your place if they had to pay anywhere NEAR full price.

Another reason I refuse to even look at those coupon sites is what they do to the businesses who advertise with them. I thought I'd give one a go for advertising my business, and was that shocked at whay they wanted me to offer that I just hung up on them.

They wanted me to offer $300 worth of work and materials, for a voucher price of $50, of which they would then take 50% of the voucher. So essentially, while I would be screaming my tits off with work, I'd be hemorrhaging money. I could have accepted $200 worth of work for a voucher price $100 and them taking 25%, as that would cover a majority of the cost to me, but they just flatout refused to budge.

Hence, I refuse to even visit those sites, and tell anyone who buys those vouchers they're essentially robbing that business, even if the business has agreed to the terms of the advertising.

[Aethian]

Now I feel bad for all the coupons I have bought...

[EricKei]

Eep. o_O Same.

I figured they took a cut, but I didn't know it was anywhere NEAR that high. I assumed it was more like 10% ~_~ And why the hell do THEY get to decide the discount?? It makes much more sense for the restaurant (etc) to make that decision.

That being said, (a), I don't live in a town where the vouchers are usable anymore, and (b) the places I've used them at actually seemed really happy to have them.

[reimero]

Now I feel bad for all the coupons I have bought...

Don't feel bad about buying coupons or vouchers. I use them as well. The bigger issue is that people have no clue how to tip. If I've got a $20 for $10 voucher (for instance), I'll tip on the $20, not the $10. That's how it's supposed to work.

You do get some bottom-feeders. You also get some people who otherwise might not have gone into your store to come in and see what you've got, and you then get a chance to earn repeat business.

[Aethian]

That was me, I went on them looking for something new to go to. Hell three of my best dates with my ex came from those. But we always tipped on the pre discount price AND went back a second time cause the food was so yummy.

I found the ones who now take care of the cleaning of my car through them. I tip them too...but yea now I'm conflicted.

[Catwoman2965]

Don't feel bad about buying coupons or vouchers. I use them as well. The bigger issue is that people have no clue how to tip. If I've got a $20 for $10 voucher (for instance), I'll tip on the $20, not the $10. That's how it's supposed to work.

You do get some bottom-feeders. You also get some people who otherwise might not have gone into your store to come in and see what you've got, and you then get a chance to earn repeat business.

I do the same. I've used coupons and deals but I always tip on the ACTUAL price, not the discounted amount. I like what one restaurant did; they brought the check with the full price, and also what we actually owed, using the Groupon. took the guesswork out of how much was it really, so we knew exactly how much to tip.

[RootedPhoenix]

That one guy in the OP forgot Wheaton's Law. (essentially don't be a jerk)

[aulocksmith]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to make any of you feel bad for using these coupons. I have a raging hatred of them simply because they wouldn't let me set my own amount of work value and discount level to manage the loss that would I actually take.

One of the primary purposes for them is as reimero says, trying to get repeat customers. Not to make the business a quick buck, though earning enough from the promotion to actually pay for it would be nice.

Aethian, you've obviously found some good places and given them repeat business through the coupons, which is great, as that is what these coupons are for.

It's just unfortunate that we're living in a society of 'the next big deal' which brings out the bottom-feeders who want everything essentially handed to them on a silver platter and have no intention of ever going back too that business again.

[Kagato]

The only time I will ever use those discount vouchers is when it is for a bigger corporate group, like one of the thermal hotpools a little out of town, they have been open for a long time and can pretty much afford to do specials like what they do (plus they sell THOUSANDS of vouchers when they do them)

[Seshat]

I found the ones who now take care of the cleaning of my car through them. I tip them too...but yea now I'm conflicted.

It is the business' free choice whether or not to advertise through the voucher sites. If the business chooses to, then you have every right to take advantage of their choice.

The fact that you use those voucher sites to decide whether or not to give ongoing business to the place, and that you tip sensibly, makes you a not-jerk.

Using the voucher sites does not make you a jerk. Using them the way the OP's jerktomer did, does.

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Boss feels the same way. No more vouchers.

And once again a complete twat ruins it for everyone else.

You see I love vouchers and coupons and the online gift cards. They allow me a parent with two kids in college to go out and have a nice sanity break with my wife once in awhile.

But when people like that come along, the places that take the voucher and and whatnot say "Fuck it! It's not worth the aggravation" and suddenly a night out with the wife turns into grabbing a burger at McDonalds because that's what we can afford.

And I'm a lazy tipper. I really have to be annoyed at a person to take the time to calculate a 15% tip. It's usually easier to figure out 10% (move the decimal over one place) and double it to 20%. And I tip based on the total amount of the bill and not what I paid. It's only fair. So I don't abuse the vouchers or go out of my way to be a jackass.

But damn it! Eventually it's going to get to the point where businesses are not going to be willing to do ANYTHING nice for a customer with the way these fuckers are acting.

[zigcat]

Not one person who redeemed a voucher at our store became a regular customer. That is why our store will no longer use them. However, that does not mean they SHOULD not be used if done so responsibly.

I've only ever ONCE used a voucher. It was for a Thai restaurant that I wanted to take a friend to for her birthday. First I read the terms and conditions. Second since her birthday was still a few months away, I made sure I knew the value expiration date.

When we went to dine, I presented the voucher up front. We placed our order and when we were done I tipped on the actual value NOT the purchase value. And I must say the food was very good and I would definitely go back and pay their full menu price.

[sms001]

businesses are not going to be willing to do ANYTHING nice for a customer with the way these fuckers are acting.

Or, sadly, the only ones who will get anything discounted/free/extra are the very ones who cause businesses to tighten up in the first place - the whiny little EWs.