Dangerous Chicken

[Sapphire Silk]

Technically true, but from what I've read, there is such a thing as 4th degree, which can cause death.

Can we say drama queen? I think I can spell it in my sleep.

It really depends on how much body surface area is involved. 4th degree burns just go deeper; the risk of death isn't raised as much as the likelihood of permanent functional impairment and loss of limb.

You probably won't die from a 4th degree burn that just involves one hand, or at least the risk is no greater than a 3rd degree burn.

The more BSA involved, the worse things get.

But back to the OP: sounds to me like the dumb bunny was hoping to get her meal comped.

OH GODS WHY!!!! Why did I click on that picture!?!

Ahem. But yes, Chicken lady was a drama queen; I'm sure some free stuff would have made her throat allllll better!

I think that stuff's cool I'm taking my students to the Burn ICU at the local trauma center in a few weeks; can't wait

That's actually true and something they tell you when teaching first aid for choking, if the person in question can still spit/cough/talk on their own, they aren't choking and should be left alone because trying to help could make it worse, it's only when they can't do anything that you can be sure their airway has become blocked and safely heimlich away to your heart's content.

Quoted for Truth.

[fireheart]

That's actually true and something they tell you when teaching first aid for choking, if the person in question can still spit/cough/talk on their own, they aren't choking and should be left alone because trying to help could make it worse, it's only when they can't do anything that you can be sure their airway has become blocked and safely heimlich away to your heart's content.

Nitpick: down here we've been taught to NEVER do the heimlich maneuver.

If you DO encounter someone choking, it's 5 back thrusts, 5 chest thrusts. (sort of like smacking them on the back)

[raudf]

would that be because the heimlich done incorrectly, can actually break ribs?

[sms001]

You're gonna get spoiled at Pre-Chew Charlie's tonight.

First thing I thought of when I read tcrh's post too. Dang, you must be old, Deevil!

Good on ya passing the buck asap, crml. No one gets paid enough for that kind of stupid, but managers generally deserve it more.

[dalesys]

One of my friends acts out a skit of an ancient pirates actions when his chicken pokes its neck out after being AWOL for many many years...

"Avast, ye scurvy lubber! I've got yer by the throat now and yer ain't escaping this time! ..."

and off he goes ...

[Jim]

IIRC, bread is the number one choking hazard, then steak, then...chicken?

[crazylegs]

would that be because the heimlich done incorrectly, can actually break ribs?

Even if you perform abdo thrusts (aka Heimlich) correctly then you can cause internal damage. That said A comes before C and a compromised airway will kill you a helluva lot quicker than any damage caused by the abdo thrusts.

[KatherineB]

Nitpick: down here we've been taught to NEVER do the heimlich maneuver.

If you DO encounter someone choking, it's 5 back thrusts, 5 chest thrusts. (sort of like smacking them on the back)

I did a course back in the early 00s where the correct response for someone choking was to let them fall unconscious first...

Yeah, never could quite bring myself to do that. Thank goodness for the new rules.

[emax4]

Fake injury to get a meal comp'd? SHE GOT BURNED!!!

[strawbabies]

Nitpick: down here we've been taught to NEVER do the heimlich maneuver.

If you DO encounter someone choking, it's 5 back thrusts, 5 chest thrusts. (sort of like smacking them on the back)

Huh. We're taught in the US to never smack someone on the back because the experts here says that'll lodge the food down further. It would sure be nice if the international medical community could all come up with a method they can agree on, wouldn't it?

[fireheart]

Huh. We're taught in the US to never smack someone on the back because the experts here says that'll lodge the food down further. It would sure be nice if the international medical community could all come up with a method they can agree on, wouldn't it?

To clarify, it's meant to be between the shoulder blades and in an upward motion. The idea is that it creates enough pressure to force the object up and out. For children apparently you're meant to put them over your knee to do this.

Then you follow DRABC afterwards. You also never do it on someone that's unconscious if I remember correctly.

[Geek King]

I did a course back in the early 00s where the correct response for someone choking was to let them fall unconscious first...

Yeah, never could quite bring myself to do that. Thank goodness for the new rules.

That's still technically a part of emergency first aid response. If the victim refuses help, it is perfectly legit to wait around until they lose consciousness then start first aid when they can no longer refuse. The Red Cross guys even teach it where I went for my classes, and most of them are former paramedics.

[wolfie]

Then you follow DRABC afterwards. You also never do it on someone that's unconscious if I remember correctly.

What is DRABC? I'm sure it's fairly common for people to use jargon from their field without realizing that it IS jargon, and that people outside their field won't know what it means.

[EvilEmpryss]

I've choked on my chicken plenty of times and you don't hear me complaining!

Bad, bad Mr. Hero!

No... Good Mr. Hero. He's pretty darned flexible if he can choke on his own chicken.

And Jim, I'm not sure about adults, but I know the #1 hazard for kids are cut up hot dogs. If you give your kid one to eat, you let them have it whole so they're conscious of what size they bite off.

[fireheart]

What is DRABC? I'm sure it's fairly common for people to use jargon from their field without realizing that it IS jargon, and that people outside their field won't know what it means.

Danger, response, airway, breathing, circulation.

In plain English:

Danger: Checking for dangers to yourself as well as to the person needing First Aid.
Response: I was taught COWS, but as far as I'm aware, it isn't used anymore...COWS: "Can you hear me?" "Open Your Eyes" "What's Your Name" "Squeeze My Hand" (At this point, you usually send for help)
Airway: Check their airway. If foreign matter is present or the person isn't breathing you progress to...
Breathing: rolling them into the recovery position and carefully scooping out any foreign matter (if present). If they start breathing or regain consciousness, they stay in the recovery position. if not...
Circulation: then we get into the CPR fun!

If available, you can also add D: Defib. The defib machine is FUN to use (when I was being re-trained on how to use the machine, two people in my group forgot to unplug the whole thing so it kept stating "calculating heart rhythm" over and over until they unplugged it)