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  • Cia
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    Quoth greek_jester View Post
    Having just finished watching the last episode of James Nesbitt's Disasters that Changed Britain series, that really hits home. In all the cases covered (Zeebrugge ferry disaster, Kings Cross fire, Paddington rail crash, Piper Alpha, the Munich air crash, Grenfell Tower) there had been many near misses, and in some cases fatalities, but none of the safety precautions that the experts were begging for were implemented, usually due to cost or because it would cause too much disruption.
    Unfortunately it seems like a person has to die before things are willingly changed.

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  • evilhomer
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    In this case, my MiM have done their due diligence and have their asses covered. A multi-billion dollar furniture manufacturing corporation is saying it is safe, who are we to say it is not. Regardless of what common sense tells anyone with a brain, they have conducted their testing, they have certified that it is safe. So when the shit hits the fan, it is the manufacturer's ass that is on the line.

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  • greek_jester
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    Quoth XCashier View Post
    Yes, it does, especially when there are safer and smarter ways to do that process, but the people in charge can't be bothered to go that direction.
    Having just finished watching the last episode of James Nesbitt's Disasters that Changed Britain series, that really hits home. In all the cases covered (Zeebrugge ferry disaster, Kings Cross fire, Paddington rail crash, Piper Alpha, the Munich air crash, Grenfell Tower) there had been many near misses, and in some cases fatalities, but none of the safety precautions that the experts were begging for were implemented, usually due to cost or because it would cause too much disruption.

    Keep pushing, evilhomer. I know that it feels like no-one's listening and no-one cares, but at least if the worst happens (which, I hate to say, it probably will at some point) you'll at least have the comfort that you did everything you could with what you had to work with.

    Also, because I'm a cynical so-and-so, keep copies of all written communications where you warn about risks and violations somewhere safe and off-site. Given what you've posted before I don't trust your bosses not to try and blame it on you if something goes wrong due to their cutting of corners. If you warn them verbally, make sure you follow it up with an e-mail noting "as we discussed..." and keep a copy, just in case.

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  • XCashier
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    Quoth Slave to the Phone View Post
    It really sucks to have to deal with processes that don't work and/or are dangerous.
    Yes, it does, especially when there are safer and smarter ways to do that process, but the people in charge can't be bothered to go that direction.

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  • Slave to the Phone
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    What a very nice, compassionate woman. I am so glad your co-worker wasn't hurt, you might have had more than one rude word to say to her outrage at the blood on the carpet.

    Tire soap is actually pretty easy to come by in my experience. Go to a tire store and ask to buy a little, offer a couple of bucks and an explanation as to what you are using it for (which does not involve mounting a tire) and show that you brought your own small container.

    You won't need much, as was mentioned up thread, that stuff is slick as summer snot. Use a wand dauber (1 inch ball of cut up rags or cotton on a twisted coat hanger will work in a pinch) to keep it off of your hands so you don't get slippery fingers.

    And, good luck. It really sucks to have to deal with processes that don't work and/or are dangerous.

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  • TheSHAD0W
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    Actually, a little bit of a cut while cleaning it up would've been a nice excuse to start off your "Option B". Also, a little bit of a note to your company's insurer about the problem might produce a useful result.

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  • Ironclad Alibi
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    Quoth Rosco the Iroc View Post
    I had to check to make sure this wasn't the nurses thread.
    Now I have to go check out the nurse's thread.

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  • Rosco the Iroc
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    Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
    Maybe a spritz of WD-40 on the rubber groove?
    I had to check to make sure this wasn't the nurses thread.

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  • Ironclad Alibi
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    Maybe a spritz of WD-40 on the rubber groove?

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  • Buzzard
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    Or if you can get yer mitts on it, tire soap. That stuff gets damn slippery, as in you got some on your hands and can no longer hold tools properly until cleaned off. It's great for making rubber products slide where they want to grip on metal. A little soap solution in a bottle to spritz where you need it and...

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  • Rosco the Iroc
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    Quoth evilhomer View Post
    I don't know. If I'm ever unfortunate enough to work on this crap again, maybe I'll try that.
    A little but of dish soap does wonders and easy to clean off when done.

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  • Shyla
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    Nice woman. Don’t break one is such helpful advice. Good thing he didn’t have to go to the ER.

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  • evilhomer
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    Quoth Rosco the Iroc View Post
    Can't grease the glass with soap or something?
    I don't know. If I'm ever unfortunate enough to work on this crap again, maybe I'll try that.

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  • Rosco the Iroc
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    Can't grease the glass with soap or something?

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  • earl colby pottinger
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    Do it yourself

    Sometimes I could do it, most times I could not. But when possible if a customer insisted I do something that was too hard or dangerous I would just tell them to do it themselves.

    I rarely got backing from management if the job was just a lot harder than expected, but they did back me if what the customer tried to ask me to do something that I considered too dangerous. I was not going to add wiring to a panel that said "Danger - High Voltage", and if it was more that 120 VAC don't expect me to do the wiring, and if it was 240 VAC on the plug but I can't find on the hardware any writing that it will input that voltage I am not going to plug it in.

    The one time a customer did not listen to me and plugged it in himself that were some strange noises and very funny smelling cloud of something rising to the ceiling.

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