Ew. Ew. Ew.

[iradney]

Tell your boss about him, and while you're at it, tell your boss you don't want to help in anymore. You see him come in, hide.



Iradney ™s her :comforting pats:, too?

LOL
naw, i do the chocolate and chocotinis

If someone does something like that to me, I mention that it's making me uncomfortable and if they continue I cannot help them. If they keep doing it, I tell em to leave. End of story. My body is still MINE, regardless of where I am, and if someone is making unwelcome advances towards it, I will tell them where to get off. Namely on My Foot Up Your Ass road.

[JustADude]

Okay, I know a guy in his 40s (same one who has the back problems) who was one of the original Dirty Dogs and has now graduated to Dirty Old Dog. There are several key difference between a Dirty Old Dog and a Dirty Old Man that I've observed:

1) A D.O.D. doesn't use tired, corny old lines except for a laugh

2) His jokes are actually FUNNY

3) He doesn't touch without invitation, and will actually get a D.O.M. off a woman's case without hitting on her immediately after

4) Most of the time, he's just being playful

5) He know when someone's not interested in banter/flirting BEFORE he becomes annoying

6) He tips generously whether the waitress was interested or not

7) If it ends up as more than just flirting, he actually treats her like a gentleman







And to those of you thinking that ANY older guy hitting on young women is inherently creepy and wrong... If a guy his age can still catch the interest of a woman that age, then where's the issue?

[Gurndigarn]

I just don't understand why some men (and probably woman too) think it's okay to so blatantly hit on someone - even go so far as to touch them - and then get pissy when the person acts the slightest bit offended.

Possibly they've read Letters to Penthouse often enough that they believe them?

[Lace Neil Singer]

I once had a dirty old man try and hit on me at the garden centre. He was disgusting; he had a huge beer gut that made him look about 9 months pregnant and hairy shoulders, which could be seen due to the wife beater he was wearing.

He kept trying to touch my hand and was talking about cats, cept he called them "pussies"... My solution? I pretended to get a call to the front on my walkietalkie and ran up there to report him. Mrs Boss went down there to get rid of him; only then did I dare go back. Even now, I still get the shivers thinking of that dirty old lech.

[Tigress]

Wow, the closest I ever got to a dirty old man was some guy that called my old Cingular store pretty regularly. Since I was often the one tasked with answering the phone, this guy would always ask during the course of the call if I was married. When I explained that I was engaged, he would talk about how he got divorced and just wanted to meet a nice girl.

The other few times were with guys that weren't "all there." One of them was in my taekwondo class. While he could do the techniques, partnering him with a female student for drills would visibly short-circuit his brain. I was able to keep him on task for the most part, but my instructor quickly learned to partner him with a male student.

The other was a harmless, retarded guy that called every female he met "baby." He was really sweet and I was always happy to add his minutes to his phone for him.

Haven't gotten hit on at my Big Box job yet. I've had a few high school boys try to flirt with me, but never anything serious. I guess it's because most people see my ring or because the fact I work as a tech intimidates them.

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Buy a taser. NExt time he gets a little frisky, pull it out and hold it at crotch level and turn it on.

The thought of a million volts of current passing from one testicle to the other is enough to make the point.

And if he doesn't get the point then you're ready to teach the lesson a little more clearly to him.

M

I have no tolerance for that kind of thing...you can tell can't you

[Luna]

I'm sorry you have creeps at your store DF. I've experienced so many over the years that I'm almost numb to them now.

The bookstores were the worst. I've had men ask me if I would climb the ladder so they could look up my skirt. I've been full palm grabbed at almost every area of my body while shelving books. I've been stalked. I've been hugged and kissed without my prior consent. I've been stroked, had fingers run through my hair and followed to my car after closing. I've been blatantly hit on, despite wearing engagement, and later - wedding set at all times.

I've been asked if I would have sex with them. I've been told I was so hot that they, "can't even read their book". I remember one guy that was so busy leering at me with his mouth open - that he walked straight into a 6 foot long pine display table with a resounding "BOOM". It was crotch level. Yes, he fell. I stood over him and laughed my ass off. Serves him right.

I've turned corners around bookcases to walk into men who quickly take their hands out of their pockets, or wipe the drool from their mouth in a suggestive way, or lick their teeth at me and then wink.

And at the bookstore, I dressed like a 1950's kindergarten teacher. I wore sweaters and turtlenecks, long corduroy skirts, flat mule brown shoes. It wasn't til I developed some self confidence that I started dressing nicer. (Not that I dressed poorly - I just discovered NY&Company clothing and started dressing professionally and snazzier.) But I never wore revealing plunge neckline or mini-skirts. Never tight clothing that left no guessing.

I wasn't always hit on by older men, it was men of all ages. Dumb has no creed, color or age factor ya know.

[Seshat]

Every time I hear about some guy behaving this way, I feel like I have to apologize on behalf of men everywhere.

I'm sorry!

The behaviour of creepy men is no more the responsibility of decent men than the behaviour of creepy women is of decent women.

On the other hand, I firmly believe that all decent people can retrain the creepy people.

If you're a target of a creepy person, you have the right to treat them as a badly behaved and badly socialised child. And you don't have to be as nice as you would to a child.

If you're witness to such an incident, a clear indication that the creep's behaviour is out of line is warranted.

I figure that if enough people let the creeps know that they're being creepy, the message has to sink in. Surely it does... eventually?

(Because sometimes I think people think I'm anti flirting: I'm not, so long as both sides want to do it. I like that the 'Dirty Dogs' from a previous post checked that they were flirting with equally flirty women, and acted to defend non-flirty women from unsocialised creeps.)

[Becks]

I think so...maybe it was you I was thinking of...or maybe South African comforting pats are different from New Jersey comforting pats..

It's all good.

I wish I could hide if I see him again. It's just that, a lot of times, I end up at the store by myself. So until we're closed, I can't hide anywhere.

I will be telling the boss about him tomorrow, and what I probably can do is refuse him service if he comes in while I am working again.

Sorry to hear that you work by yourself a lot. Is there a security guard type that could hang around unobtrusively?

Hopefully your boss will let you ban him. It's not right to make someone work in an uncomfortable situation.

[MadMike]

I'm sorry you had to put up with a jackass like that.

Look on the bright side: Sooner or later, he'll try that with the wrong woman, and she'll have his nuts in a jar.

A very small jar.

[BookstoreEscapee]

It's all good.

Sorry about that...I go fix it

[WHShit]

I really hate when they say that they "don't want to hear about the boyfriend". What the hell? What do they expect you to do or say? I used to get different variations of this, even with assholes going as far as to say "just cause you have a boyfriend doesn't mean you can't go out with me". YES IT DOES!

I have had to actually tell someone that I was "just not attracted" to him before.....and he got all offended. Well, when I turn you down 10 times, tell you I have a boyfriend, tell you I am not interested and say "no".........don't you get the hint? I am soooo sorry to have offended you, Mr. Jackass!I HATE men like this!

Sorry, I really hate people like this.........excuse the rant. And, if this "man" ever comes in again and tries any of his crap, either tell the manager to speak to him or tell him you are not attracted to him. I gaurantee the latter will work!

[kibbles]

And to those of you thinking that ANY older guy hitting on young women is inherently creepy and wrong... If a guy his age can still catch the interest of a woman that age, then where's the issue?

I was just about to post the exact same thing myself. The dude in the OP wasn't creepy because he was old, he was creepy because he wouldn't take the obvious hints..a guy could be like that whether he is old or young. ITA, an older guy hitting on a young women is not inherently creepy and wrong at all. If she expresses disinterest and he keeps going, well then it's creepy.

[DesignFox]

Hence the clarifier..."creepy". I don't mind older guys hitting on me. That's not the issue. It's when they are creepy about it that I have a problem.

A older gentleman complimenting me would not be offensive. I've had that happen before- mostly I think it's nice or kind of cute depending on the way the compliment is given. And the big difference is that the gentleman will take the hint and back off.

BTW, I like the idea of the tazer, Mongo.

[Tigress]

I really hate when they say that they "don't want to hear about the boyfriend". What the hell? What do they expect you to do or say? I used to get different variations of this, even with assholes going as far as to say "just cause you have a boyfriend doesn't mean you can't go out with me". YES IT DOES!

Here's a variation: "Well, haven't you wondered what dating another guy would be like?" "Aren't you even curious?"

Dude, if I was curious, I wouldn't be with my guy in the first place!