For any of you that were servers or still servers ever get customers that say they are servers but even with good service still tip horribly? One such incident I remember when I worked for Dennys. This lady who I chatted up said she also worked for my company and we had a nice chat when I checked on her and talked about our place and hers. She left, I cleaned her table and found she had left me nothing. Wtf?
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I was a server for quite a few years and I to dealt with this.....Okay I tend to only eat at dine in resturants with a wait staff If I know I am able to tip if not then fast food dine in it is. I NEVER understood the leaving no tip deal...especially from those who worked as servers themselves.....I did have a gentleman confess that he never left tips because he thought that servers made minimum wage and that it was there job so why should they be paid more to do thier jobs...after explaining that servers usually only make 2.15 an hour he began leaving tips and apologized many times for his way of thinking...
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That is no excuse for not tipping. If you can't afford to tip, you cannot afford the meal.
I used to be on a server forum when I was a waitress, and we'd get "guests" who were customers and they'd play the poor card as a way of justifying not tipping.You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth
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Well, to be fair, I've also been in that situation where I only had exactly enough for my meal.
I felt terrible not tipping, and my intent had originally been to leave a tip, as I have family in that business and I know what it's like.
I just didn't add things up quite right, and it came to more than I had anticipated.
Tipping is a very sore subject with me, though.
I feel that employers should be paying their staff above minimum wage and that a tip or gratuity should be exactly what it means, (something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service), and not automatically expected as a supplement to the employees income.
I think, though, since employers are not paying a proper wage, and tips are expected, if a person works in that area, they should know what it's like and understand how it feels to that waiter if they don't leave a tip.Too tired of living and too tired to end it. What a conundrum.
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Ree, I think everyone in the service industry feels the way you do.
Now pizza boys/girls, they get at least minimum wage and a delivery fee, and a tip. So even if they get stiffed upon delivery, they still are getting at least $6 an hour.
Some things we'll just never understand the innerworkings ofYou really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth
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I have to agree with blas. If you cannot afford to tip, go someplace where you serve yourself, or choose a cheaper entree/skip a drink/find a way. Even if I'm planning on paying in cash, if I don't have enough to leave an appropriate tip, I suck it up and charge it, or I drink water instead of soda."In the end I was the mean girl/or somebody's in between girl"~Neko Case
“You don't need many words if you already know what you're talking about.” ~William Stafford
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All I have to say on this subject is that I think tips should not be *expected*. Like a previous poster said, they should be given for service that exceeds expectations.
I always tip, usually 15-20%. I consider 15% average and 20% for good service. I hate the idea of tipping as mandatory, but I always tip.
As a closing remark, I absolutely despise how gratuities are usually automatically added for parties of 6/8/etc. or more. Again, I think I understand why this policy exists (to ensure that the restaurant and server do not lose money while waiting on a huge party, I would guess), but I don't agree. What if I don't think my server did a good enough job to warrant that 20% gratuity? I've known people to actually complain to the manager over that issue.
Oh well. Again, tipping is something that I'll never get.
I guess I'll just have to work service industry for a bit.
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I'm an enriched tipper. My first restaurant experience I didn't tip at all and paid for my portion (I was only 16 at the time). But Spagucchis or whatever the hell this restaurant name was is the worst frickin restaurant in the world!Providing Excellent customer service and Filtering out nonsense people.
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Quoth theredbaron47 View PostAll I have to say on this subject is that I think tips should not be *expected*. Like a previous poster said, they should be given for service that exceeds expectations.
I always tip, usually 15-20%. I consider 15% average and 20% for good service. I hate the idea of tipping as mandatory, but I always tip.
Same here. To me, if you want a tip, make sure, I am getting good service.Last edited by powerboy; 08-06-2007, 08:12 AM.
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Quoth blas87 View PostRee, I think everyone in the service industry feels the way you do.
Yes, we bitch about bad tips. Yes, the job can be a crapshoot. But overall, the good servers do well. And frankly, most establishments would NOT be willing to pay us what we actually make. Trust me on that one.
Quoth theredbaron47 View PostAll I have to say on this subject is that I think tips should not be *expected*. Like a previous poster said, they should be given for service that exceeds expectations.
I disagree. I think tips should be given for service that meets or exceeds expectations. If you get bad service? Don't tip. I agree. But if you get good, adquate service, and don't tip? That just ain't right.
I give phenomenal service. I rock. I am not going to lie or be falsely modest about that. But there are times when I am ridiculously busy/slammed/whatever you want to call it. And with as busy as I am, I can only give decent service. But I get you your food and drinks in a timely manner, make sure you are taken care of as well as I can, and make your experience as enjoyable as I can. If I do all that and someone doesn't tip me? Damn right I am going to be pissed.
Man, I am so glad I am taking this mini-vacation. Only tips I am going to be concerned with is the tips I'm giving out!
"The Customer Is Always Right...But The Bartender Decides Who Is Still A Customer."
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Quoth Broomjockey View PostI've never worked a tipped position, so anyone who has, in Canada, do they get away with that "less than minimum wage" stuff here? I've wondered ever since I've found out about that practice in the US.
I agree with Ree; as a former waitress, it would have been nice to get paid a living wage. It would provide some financial stability for wait staff, and would be nicer for the customers who wouldn't need to feel obliged to tip.
I don't have much sympathy for people who decide to dine in a full-service restaurant (where they KNOW tipping is expected) and know ahead of time that they can only afford to cover their meal and won't be able to leave a tip. I would suggest that they eat at a self-serve place in that instance. Its not difficult to factor a tip into your dining-out budget.
However, everyone's had a bill come to more than they expected, so I do understand that someone might unexpectedly run short when it comes to tipping time. I had a few customers explain this to me back in the day, and they were so nice and apologetic about it that I really didn't care.
If you have to ask, it's probably better posted at www.fratching.com
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Quoth blas87 View PostNow pizza boys/girls, they get at least minimum wage and a delivery fee, and a tip. So even if they get stiffed upon delivery, they still are getting at least $6 an hour.
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