Homewrecker!

[blas]

Or they could just be extremely jealous and psycho.

The one trainee of mine who got fired, well, he started dating one of the other temps. She is one of those nutso girlfriends. She immediately thought there was something going on between us. On his first night, she saw me and him walking down the hallway, me showing him where the bathrooms are, etc, and she came OUT of her production area and watched us!

She kept parking next to me every night, making "sure" I wasn't going to go to her boyfriend's car. It wasn't worth my time or effort to come in early to avoid her.

I figured I'd stir the pot, and one night when they were both waltzing in a few minutes late, I called him out and said "Hey Pete, I need to see you in the conference room to go over your exam from last night."

OH SHE WAS PISSED!

But get this...she's the girl from my thread "I hate girls like this". Flirtatious, slutty little thing that finds random guys to do her dirty work for her. So she's a hypocrite on top of it.

If you wouldn't risk losing your job, I'd mess with those women a bit. Get them all nice and furious over it.

[xlr82xs]

Messing with customers is always good


Especially when you call to confirm a booking that some school aged person has made and you get their parents instead "Um, well, I can't really tell you what this is about, could you just get <Timmy> to call that place about that thing he's doing on Saturday ?"

*cough*


btw, I work at a net cafe, not anywhere interesting

[napoleana]

yeah, she's somewhat new to this. doesn't mean the woman had to go crazy, though.

Totally not A's fault, especially if she learns to identify herself at the beginning now.

However, may not be SC's fault either. The phone can alter people's voices, and a lot of people sound similar on the phone even if they don't in real life. (And sometimes they do in real life - to an unnerving degree.) A may have actually sounded like the "homewrecker," in which case SC's reaction was understandable...

Personally, I find the whole thing amusing. ^.^

[HYHYBT]

I'm of the opinion that if its a business calling they should be legall required to identify themselves, the organization they are calling from and the reason they are calling otherwise the perosn should hang up. Its unprofessional and rude to call a person's house and then not properly identify yourself.

The trouble is, there are already cases where it's at least unethical, and probably illlegal, to identify yourself and why you're calling to anyone except the person you're trying to reach. Bill collectors are bad enough, but what about a doctor's office, calling with test results? HIPPA would never allow it. Besides, as has already been mentioned, anything that sounds like it might be a telemarketer shuts people's ears and brains off.

[Lady Heather]

Homewreaker!!

"Hello?" she pured. "This is Nikki, I need to speak with Jhonny. It's a.. personal matter. You understand." "Well I'm his wife Susan.", suspition creeping into her voice. "You can tell me." "Oh I'm sorry honey, he didn't want you to find out like this." "What! Find out about what? What'd he do?!" Fear and confusion clenching her throat, making it tight. "Well he's been coming to see me for awhile..." she sounded guilty, like she was sorry for destroying Susan's life. "He's seeing you! That cad! That.." All Nikki could hear was the sound of Susan sobbing quietly on the other end of the line. "Susan? Susan...please you don't understand. He's been seeing me for dance lessons, for your aniversery. He wanted to surprise you...Susan?" There was the sound of footsteps on the other end of the line. "Susan did you hear me? Susan?" Then Nikki heard it, the sound of a shotgun being loaded.....

Sorry couldn't help it!

[Rahmota]

HYHYBT said

The trouble is, there are already cases where it's at least unethical, and probably illlegal, to identify yourself and why you're calling to anyone except the person you're trying to reach. Bill collectors are bad enough, but what about a doctor's office, calling with test results? HIPPA would never allow it.

And how would the following be unethical or illegal?

"Hello this is bob freeman calling from dr jones office to speak with john doe about a personal matter?"

To me that identifies the person and still doesnt give any classified information away. Besides I still say its my home a person coming to my home must seek my permission to enter it be it through the front door or the phone line. If they arnt professional or polite or ethical enough to identify who they are then I have the right and priviledge and responsibility to run them off at the point of whatever is handy or tell them to go bugger themselves and hang up on them if its over the phone. And at my house that is the way it goes. You come to my door or call on my phone you will give me the information I request or you will not get a toe across the line. A person's home is their sanctum and castle against the insanity of the world. It should be the last best safe harbor in the world.

HYHYBT:

Besides, as has already been mentioned, anything that sounds like it might be a telemarketer shuts people's ears and brains off.

Well a simple way to help alleviate that would be to make telemarketing illegal and punishable by at least a 500,000$ fine per call the company makes. That shold stop those pesky telemarketers from existing.....

[king4aday]

one of the aspects to my job is that we get other stores calling us to find product that they are out of for customers. Usually when we are calling around to stores we will ask the customer for their number and let them know that the other store will be calling them. This is done just for the pure fact that it may take us a couple of hours of calling around until we actually find the product (there are 141 stores).

As it turns out my store is one of the smallest, but we get shipped some of the harder to find products and other stores are finding this out. So we get to make a lot of calls and send out a lot of mail orders. I cant count the number of times that people have said "I dont take unsolicited calls" and have hung up on me. WTF..you gave us the phone number so we could call you back! So typically a couple days later we get an angry call from the customer (the other store gave them our phone number because we had the product they wanted). The immediate response "WHY DIDNT YOU CALL ME? I REALLY NEEDED THAT UNDERWEAR!" (underwear is what we sell). I simply reply that I did try and was hung up on...and while I appreciate their business, that product has now been sold to another customer (which it has)....buh bye now...thanks for playing.

[TonyDonuts]

HYHYBT said

And how would the following be unethical or illegal?

"Hello this is bob freeman calling from dr jones office to speak with john doe about a personal matter?"

The whole thing would not be allowed.

The fact that I'm calling from Dr. Jones office at all could be considered confidential information.

If you're over the age of eighteen the only person I can mention "personal matters" to is YOU.

HIPAA penalties are nothing to be sneezed at. Fines into the thousands of dollars and, no foolin', possible jail time for even accidental release of confidential information.*

Do you really think a receptionist is going to risk that just so you'll think she's polite? Didn't think so.
______________________________
*"SEC. 1177. (a) OFFENSE.--A person who knowingly and in violation of this part--

"(1) uses or causes to be used a unique health identifier;

"(2) obtains individually identifiable health information relating to an individual; or

"(3) discloses individually identifiable health information to another person,

shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

"(b) PENALTIES.--A person described in subsection (a) shall--

"(1) be fined not more than $50,000, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both;

[Sliceanddice]

because its against the law for you tell people anything about person a medical history to anyone else. If i go to Dr Bob cause i might have Cncer, and Dr, Bob is a cancer doctor, and i dont want my potental employer to know i might have cancer and there for might not beable to work in a couple of monthes, if they call my cell to tell me my results, and say emploer receptionest ahs my phone cause i dropped it and she finds out i went to Dr Bob and knows Dr bob is a cancer doctor cause her mom went to Dr bob, and she tells her boss., and he doesnt hire me because of it, i now have the right to sue Dr Bob and his receptionest for disclosing my medical history to someone they did not have my permission too, because by just telling her who he was, he was disclosing a possible medical problem that i have the right to keep quite.
Im so for none initial discloser.

[Rahmota]

Well thats a stupid overzealous application of a law that is not meant to keep people from identifiying themselves on the phone. I

f you are calling the contact number for the patient or person then the way I phrased it is not giving out anything that would be or should be considered a personal matter unless the person interpreting it is anal retentive or overzealous. The phrase I gave does not fall within any of the examples of the law. Does NOT disclose any medical issues or history to anyone. All it does is give the person who answers the phone the important, professional and valid information of WHO is calling their home. WHY they are calling. And WHOM they are requesting to speak with. All three valid answers that are and should be required to speak with anyone when a business calls a home. I mean when a person calls a business they ahve to give out that information otherwise the call center person wont talk to them. Refuse to give those and the person has every right and responsibility to hang up on the person bothering them by calling and invading their home be it virtually or physically.

Whatever else I'm done with this conversation as this is going to head into fratching territory if it continues by discussing what is or is not the proper interpretation of the applicable law. I've given my impression of the way I think the law should be interpreted.

Personally I dont think a person has a right to whine if they get hung up on or whatever because they wont identify themselves when they call a person's home. You refuse to identify yourself then you deserve whatever you get.

[CrazedClerkthe2nd]

The phrase I gave does not fall within any of the examples of the law. Does NOT disclose any medical issues or history to anyone.

Ok so let's say I am seeing Dr. X for a particular condition that I want to keep private and Dr. X is a specialist in treating this condition. I leave them my cell phone number to reach me.

I would NOT want someone calling from Dr. X's office to identify that's where they are from to ANYONE who might answer my cell phone, since I don't want anyone but me to know I am seeing Dr. X or potentially what I am seeing him for (if whoever answers my phone happens to be familiar with the condition Dr. X deals with).

Honestly, I can see your side of the argument, but privacy is important.

[HYHYBT]

So "Hello, this is Dr. Bob calliing from the VD clinic..." isn't giving away personal information?

It doesn't matter whether it makes logical sense. It *definitely* doesn't matter whether it suits your personal definition of polite. It's the law. Work to get it changed if you wish, but don't in the meantime blame those whose job is to obey it.

[Sliceanddice]

Drs are a part of medical history.
Thats why you are often asked in an emergency who your usual docotor are.
I see what your saying i do, its just there are so many things that can be linked from a simple name that we have to be careful.
Personally i dont care.
If they ask for someone and they arent there i am not going to start screaming.

[TonyDonuts]

I've given my impression of the way I think the law should be interpreted.

Worked medical collections have you?

Worked in a doctor's office have you?

No?

Then listen to people who have, sonny.

You may not like it, but that's how the world works.

[iradney]

Easy guys.
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Let's keep it friendly, or take it to that other wonderful site Raps has for us - Fratching

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