Why I need to watch more Chuck Norris movies...

[toolbert]

I'm not sure exactly how to put it into words, but I can see why he was charged with sexual battery for doing what he did.
Can anyone help me explain it?

it may have been a lot more...graphic than what was told to us. I think I would want him to be put away for that if he tried to "pretend" butt rape me while I was in the store.

[Broomjockey]

Generally, assault is actual contact, battery is intimidation or making the motions of actions if carried through would be assault (i.e. throwing a punch at someone and stopping your swing a half inch away from their nose.)

[Becks]

Thanks...my mind wasn't working well this morning.

[dispatch]

assault is making threats and gestures, battery is wounding or touching in an offensive manner.

if that's how the law is in california, I'm never going there. In Nebraska you can return whatever is being done to you or whatever is an iminent threat to you. I'm not 100% sure, but I've heard in minnesota you can shoot someone dead if they take 2 steps toward you in a threatning fashion

kudos on how you handled that, this is why I work on the phones, and even then I've retreated to a support role, and they wonder why there's "no such thing as service anymore"

[Canarr]

Here is the aftermath.... the SC was booked on assault, sexual battery (?)

I thought that's what you put in a vibrator?

Ahem; sorry, couldn't resist. But damn, California self-defense laws suck. In Germany, you can do whatever is necessary to stop a current, ongoing, unlawful attack against you or other people - *within reason*. Knocking someone down who's pushing you or someone else would be acceptable - shooting someone for smacking you with a metal ruler would not. Plus, the law states that the attacked need not run away.

On the other hand, "self-defense excess" is a felony here, so you gotta be careful.

[Ace of Diamonds]

1) If you can run away you have to.

2) If you can't and they hit you you can push them away (open handed only, if you make a fist you are striking them) once.

3) If they hit you again you can push them again and on and on and on.

While the specifics vary, this is known as the Duty to Retreat, and it's the law of the land in many states -- as opposed to Stand Your Ground statutes, which exist mainly in the Deep South. Additionally, specific city and county laws may not exactly match state laws.

Anyone who works the front lines of customer service is likely to encounter a violent SC sooner or later, so you'd be wise to keep abreast of what laws regarding self defense apply in your locality. No SC is worth a felony conviction.

[protege]

... the part where Prisoner 8675309 has to explain it all to the other inmates...

Interesting prisoner number Dammit. Now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all day But, it's good to know that the bastard won't be causing trouble any more.

[Tria]

Then the unimaginable happens. The SC runs over to me, puts his hands on my hips, and starts mimicing the deed.

SC: Is this how you are going to do it to him tonight?

The bad part of my brain wants to know if he grabbed you from behind or faced you.... Just so I can imagine you mule kicking him in the shin or kneeing him in the groin....

[Tria]

I'm not sure exactly how to put it into words, but I can see why he was charged with sexual battery for doing what he did.
Can anyone help me explain it?

No, but I can't see why THAT is sexual battery while full out rape is sexual assault. Not saying the original poster is making a big deal out of nothing, because it's not nothing, just wondering what's going on in the law's mind.

[Rapscallion]

I'd say they were making sure they had plenty to charge the moron with, so if that's the case then I approve.

Besides, if a chap did that to a female member of this site, we'd be quite happy to see him charged with something nice and legal.

Rapscallion

[Imogene]

SC: I don't work, dumb @$$...

No kidding?

SC: No, you got computers, FIX MY PHONE!!!

"Shall I just use my imaginary computer that can connect to the nothing and find out what's wrong with your phone that doesn't work? If it doesn't work, I doubt I'll get a signsl from it to even hazard a guess as to what's wrong.

SC: Listen here you f-g, you will get me out of here tonight with a phone or there will be trouble.

"Here you go." *hand phone back* "There's a phone."

Then the unimaginable happens. The SC runs over to me, puts his hands on my hips, and starts mimicing the deed.

SC: Is this how you are going to do it to him tonight?

"Sir, what I do on my free time isn't your business, and second off, we definitely won't have clothes on."

Sorry to hear about the hostile SC, Swimnspeedos.