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  • I feel like slapping those private school kids

    In general, they are nice. But there was one boy walking around yelling at his friends (as in, talking loud, even though the friends were 10 feet away).

    The kids weren't getting the idea of call numbers. I think they were looking at the numbers like they were Egyptian hieroglyphics, instead using the math skillz they got from kindegarten. Like if a number says 940, and they are looking at a shelf that says, 979, and the shelf on the left says 970, maybe they should keep on going to the left until they run into shelf 940.

    Or the ones looking for Biographies. The call numbers start with a B, for biography, then the next letter is the last name of the subject (well except for Napoleon, and other one-name wonders). This boy was looking for books on Dillenger. I take him to B Dxx. He keeps on looking all over the place, to the B C, B A. So I take him back to the right shelf and point to him the freaking book. He says, "I'm so stupid!" I tell him, "You shouldn't say that outloud, you might have friends who will make fun of you."

    Then I see this girl with microfilm. I thought a coworker of mines went to get it for her. It had something to do with Mississippi land. So I get it on the machine, and we look at it, and she says, "it's in Spanish!" So I felt bad for her and I asked her for what she was looking for. She said, "I'm looking for the history of rock". So I was thinking it was a geolography question. But I felt dobious. I ask, "What type of rock?" She says, "Rock and Roll". I said did she ask for this film, and she said "no, it was on a shelf." Now the microfilm had a wrapper with someone's name on it. I told her, "You shouldn't touch things that do not have your name on it." I put back the film and helped her find books on rock and roll.

    then another idiot went to the travel books and found books on Walt Disney Land. She tells me she didn't want travel books. God knows that when she looked on the catalog, and typed in "Walt Disney", the fucking title shows up. And the fucking title of the books she wrote down the call numbers for said "Fodor's guide to Disneyworld". She wanted books on Walt Disney himself. And I look them up for her and she babbles on, "I need books on Walt Disney. On his drawings. On Mickey Mouse." I gave her the call number for "The Imagination of Walt Disney" (some title like that) and she was all pouty because she wanted a book on his "animation". Ugh.
    Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

    Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

    I wish porn had subtitles.

  • #2
    Quoth depechemodefan View Post
    "I need books on Walt Disney. On his drawings. On Mickey Mouse." I gave her the call number for "The Imagination of Walt Disney" (some title like that) and she was all pouty because she wanted a book on his "animation". Ugh.
    Open the gawdayum book, woman! I guarantee you you'll find the info you want if you bother looking past the title!
    Now would be a good time to visit So Very Unofficial!

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    • #3
      Oh, I feel for you, depechemodefan. we get oddness like that and it doesn't always come from school children.

      We had a man once who gave us a list of citations. He was trying to make a connection between a class of ancient Egyptian priests who wore a leopard skin as part of their regalia and West African leopard societies. The citations were a mixed bag that didn't make much sense until we figured out what he'd done.

      He must have done a keyword search for 'Leopard' and presented everything he found. We figured it out because his list included everything we had from the French publisher Leopard d'Or.

      People just don't look beyond the subject sometimes. We regularly get people who give us lists of citations only to discover that the works are in languages they can't read. Seriously, do non-German speakers really think they're going to be able something with a title like "Dauer und Wandel"?

      Ten there was the classic of the college student who asked for information on eye diseases in Ancient Egypt. Easy enough to find but the request seemed a bit specialized for a World Civ 101 course. It turned out that he had been asked to write a few paragraphs about the importance of the Nile cataracts in the history of Africa.

      How did a short essay on a waterway turn into an essay on eye diseases. Easy, his Grandma had recently had an operation for cataracts.
      Research is the art of reading what everyone has read and seeing what no one else has seen.

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      • #4
        Quoth Shironu-Akaineko View Post
        Open the gawdayum book, woman! I guarantee you you'll find the info you want if you bother looking past the title!
        My co-worker said she had 10 kids asking for books on Walt Disney. Then when most realized that their classmates were doing the same, they changed their topic.

        I remember not finding a book on Cleopatra and telling the kid, "Maybe some other kids are doing the same project" and she said, "no." Huh.

        Oh, and since they needed biographies (most of them), if they didn't find one biography, and I suggested another, they didn't want the other. And it's not like they had a list of books their teacher told them they had to use, it was their own research.

        Quoth LibraryLady View Post
        Oh, I feel for you, depechemodefan. we get oddness like that and it doesn't always come from school children.

        Ten there was the classic of the college student who asked for information on eye diseases in Ancient Egypt. Easy enough to find but the request seemed a bit specialized for a World Civ 101 course. It turned out that he had been asked to write a few paragraphs about the importance of the Nile cataracts in the history of Africa.

        How did a short essay on a waterway turn into an essay on eye diseases. Easy, his Grandma had recently had an operation for cataracts.
        Ah, I wonder how he got in college...bet his parents spent a lot of money for prep school for him, and then did his homework for him.
        Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

        Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

        I wish porn had subtitles.

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        • #5
          Actually, this young man came from a city college in the days when there was open enrollment. At that time, anyone who wanted could get a free college education. He was earnest but, unfortunately, he didn't get the preparation he needed. At about the same time we had mature students who had been out of school for some time but were taking advantage of this opportunity.

          Some of these people, especially the older women, were some of the best researchers I've seen. They came out of the city Public School system when a High School diploma meant something. They asked good questions such as , "How do I know if this book is any good?"

          We could tell them how to do it because we cite reviews on the fly-leaves of our books. "Here are the reviews, Ma'am. I'll get them for you and you can decide the value of the book for yourself."

          Oooh, they liked that.

          When I was about 8 my mother and Mrs. Getz at the King's Daughters' Library in our little village taught me the rudiments of the Dewey Decimal System. Over the years we have had 'highly-educated' volunteers who don't understand that, in Dewey, XXX.314 will be shelved before XXX.32. I can't begin to tell you the problems we've had with that over the decades.

          Being well-educated doesn't mean being smart. I think the young man who asked for the material about eye diseases was smart. He made an intellectual connection. It just wasn't the one he needed. At least he was trying to do the right thing.
          Research is the art of reading what everyone has read and seeing what no one else has seen.

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          • #6
            God help them if they ever went back to when catalogues were on cards, masses and masses of cards, draws full of them, and then some idiot would pull out the draw too far and all the cards would end up messed up on the ground.

            Sorry, flashbacks.
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            • #7
              Quoth Nyoibo View Post
              God help them if they ever went back to when catalogues were on cards, masses and masses of cards, draws full of them, and then some idiot would pull out the draw too far and all the cards would end up messed up on the ground.

              Sorry, flashbacks.
              Made me think of the opening of the movie "Ghostbusters"...

              Anyways, re: kids in private schools. There's a small school in my town that I believe is a private school... and it's the worst school around.

              We printed their year-end annual one year... Proof-reading that was torture. They mis-spelled "Principal", f'cryin' out loud! (Yes, they spelled it "Principle").

              AND, one of their graduates (Grade 12!) is a member of our local gaming club... and we had to explain the principle of "Clockwise" to him. The school had only digital and not analog clocks...
              "Kamala the Ugandan Giant" 1950-2020 • "Bullet" Bob Armstrong 1939-2020 • "Road Warrior Animal" 1960-2020 • "Zeus" Tiny Lister Jr. 1958-2020 • "Hacksaw" Butch Reed 1954-2021 • "New Jack" Jerome Young 1963-2021 • "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff 1949-2021 • "Beautiful" Bobby Eaton 1958-2021 • Daffney 1975-2021

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              • #8
                These are our future leaders....









                We're so boned......
                I have a...thing. Wanna see it?

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                • #9
                  What's funny - I was in B&N yesterday with my BF, and said..."at least they aren't using the Dewey system here" and he was like ...What's the Dewey Decimal System??

                  Whoa. Then I had to tell him about Subject, Author cards and how it kinda worked...Made me feel like a kid again.

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                  • #10
                    Kids from the school came back today. I don't know if they are the same kids. Maybe they are, since only 2 kids came up to me for help.

                    One boy (mabye 15 or 16) came up to me and asked if we had any bags. I told him we had bags at check out.
                    boy: but I don't want to check out! I'm doing work on the 4th floor.
                    me: Ok, just go to check out, pick up a bag there. YOu don't have to check out.

                    Though I heard a co-worker on the 2nd floor was swamped by the kids.
                    Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                    Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                    I wish porn had subtitles.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Nyoibo View Post
                      God help them if they ever went back to when catalogues were on cards, masses and masses of cards, draws full of them, and then some idiot would pull out the draw too far and all the cards would end up messed up on the ground.

                      Sorry, flashbacks.
                      Poor Nyoibo!

                      Weren't your catalog cards on rods? When we had new volunteers we always made them file the cards above the rod.

                      We could have fun with the rods too. I remember one time when a volunteer was doing some searching. She had to go to the main Library to do her work because we didn't have access to RLIN in our little Library. To make her work easier we removed the rods, gave her the rods and gave her a spacer to keep her place. She came back with the drawer and the spacer but not the rods. I ran down to the main Library and retrieved the rods.

                      "Why do you need those?"

                      "We need them because we're making shish-ka-bob for lunch. Would you prefer lamb or chicken?"
                      Research is the art of reading what everyone has read and seeing what no one else has seen.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth depechemodefan View Post
                        Or the ones looking for Biographies. The call numbers start with a B, for biography, then the next letter is the last name of the subject (well except for Napoleon, and other one-name wonders)
                        Except that I'd still expect to find biographies under BDYN for Dynamite.

                        /runs.
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