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  • Waste of time *long*

    Not a great day today - a colleague had a breakdown yesterday, I have to tell someone they aren't entitled to money a colleague seems to have incorrectly told them they could get, and I'm trying to work out what someone who has an illness caused by asbestos is entitled to. Also I woke up this morning to find that my hair obviously hadn't been 100% dry when I went to bed - so it got BIG on one side. Only one side.

    But having said that - I had on the whole a lovely bunch of customers today.

    And then there was this woman.

    Firstly she wants a solicitor for a family problem. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to see us for - except she's (a) already had more specialist advice than we can give, (b) been told she can get a free solicitor but (c) told that to see a free solicitor she must first provide X piece of evidence of her earnings.

    So - Yes you can have a free solicitor. Yes you need that piece of paper. No I can't do anything without that.

    Next please.

    Oh - your husband wanted advice too, and you didn't explain this to the receptionist and now you're blaming her ? OK, the receptionist is new and doesn't deserve hassle from the likes of you so I'll advise your husband and basically see an extra person today.

    I don't like you very much.

    So I start to advise her husband, accept he (a) doesn't speak English, and (b) keeps leaving the room with the crying baby. Which is nice and shows a concern for both me and the baby which I rather like, but makes it kind of difficult to get information from him.

    So I'm stuck asking this loon-headed woman.

    She tells me her husband is having trouble getting work because of his home office papers. She asks what he can do about this - and can he get any benefit.

    Now again, these are questions I can answer. I just need to know some things first. What is her husband's current immigration status ?

    She doesn't know. She eventually says he has X status but keeps showing paperwork regarding an application. The application does not mean he was given that status, in fact it's quite possible they still haven't decided.

    Every question I ask she can't answer. She doesn't know if there are any other decisions, or paperwork. She claims he can work and claim because he has done both in the past - that doesn't actually mean that was correct.

    Then she tells me the reason they have no paperwork is because they've sent all the paperwork to the home office when they married. But she has no idea why

    This tells me 2 things. Firstly if he had X status the home office wouldn't require them to send anything about the marriage. Secondly this woman is a complete and utter idiot.

    I explain that I really need to know what application they made, she shrugs. I ask (which I know is pointless but sometimes I can't help myself) how she can not know, and she says "Well, you know, that's what you do sometimes".

    No. No it isn't. No one makes random applications to the home office, no one makes applications they don't know about. It probably cost £400 odd just to send the forms in, those where forms you had to read and put down very specific information on, you had to send specific relevant paperwork. People don't just do that!

    A second brain to mouth filter function led me to actually tell her that really people don't do this, but my face/voice filter is better so I did it through a happy smile rather than while hitting her round the head.

    I told her I couldn't help at all without further information, and apologised (thank you brain to mouth filter). She started saying "That's OK". She said it 3 times, then she started saying "That's OK. Complete waste of my time". Then she continued out of the building getting louder and louder until she was shouting this and something in her own language.

    Yes - it was a complete waste of her time. This was not my fault.

    Victoria J

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    The only waste of time I saw was yours, since you had to wade through the mire of her ineptitude and lies. Why did she even bother to come in? Did she think you were really just going to go along with that?

    Was she expecting you to say, "Oh okay, you're not sure if your husband is living and working here legally or not? Nah, that's cool, everyone forgets which $400 applications they filled out. It's only $400, after all! Oh, the home office is reviewing your marriage license? Yea, that's standard procedure for people who are perfectly legal; no worries. You're all set to go!"

    Yea. Freakin. Right.

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    • #3
      Quoth GiftShopGirl View Post
      The only waste of time I saw was yours, since you had to wade through the mire of her ineptitude and lies.
      *Shrug* I get paid

      Quoth GiftShopGirl View Post
      Was she expecting you to say, "Oh okay, you're not sure if your husband is living and working here legally or not? Nah, that's cool, everyone forgets which $400 applications they filled out. It's only $400, after all! Oh, the home office is reviewing your marriage license? Yea, that's standard procedure for people who are perfectly legal; no worries. You're all set to go!"
      The really really odd thing is if I was guessing I'd say he is here legally. He is still waiting for a decision. He was granted permission to work - but doesn't have the document now for some reason. He isn't allowed benefit but could claim some things based on his working. And the new application is for a second sort of status that can be processed more quickly.

      I'm not advising on the guess - not about to tell him to work and find out I've made him break the law ! But I don't think she's dodgy, just stupid. Dodgy I actually respect more (I see nothing wrong with people wanting the best lives they can get, and nothing wrong with the law limiting that outside of allowing refugees. My heart doesn't break for people who get thrown back out but I'm not going to condemn anyone that much for trying).

      Victoria J

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      • #4
        VictoriaJ, It's bit off topic, but I noted you said you had a new receptionist. Does this mean you finally got rid of the awful volunteer?
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        • #5
          ARRGGHH.

          So I got round to making up my case notes (I left it to last because I knew I'd get angry all over again) and what do I find - she has (a) been to out sister office who already told her we couldn't help with the family matter as she needed a solicitor and (b) told her she wouldn't get a free solicitor because...

          she has £20'000 in the bank!



          That's £20'000 that mysteriously wasn't there when I was asking her about her finances.

          So she lied to me. And I really wish I had been able to get her a free solicitor. Because they would have found out and then she would be facing fraud action not just me wishing I could make her head explode with my mind.

          Grr.

          Oh - and the discipline it took to do the write up. To record that she left saying it was a waste of time without adding that I agree !

          Quoth wagegoth View Post
          VictoriaJ, It's bit off topic, but I noted you said you had a new receptionist. Does this mean you finally got rid of the awful volunteer?
          Yes and no.

          Our good, paid, part time receptionist if off for 4 weeks. (And I am invited to her wedding on Saturday ) This, paid, worker is covering for her.

          The awful volunteer has gone though. She basically phoned up and suggested she'd only return if we had paid work for her.



          Which is a relief. But we now have no one covering those shifts. Still (literally) better than her doing it.

          We're all hoping we can achieve the same with our cleaner. We have a great cleaner for the building, but an awful cleaner for the parts used by our organisation only. Really awful - when she vacuums she kind of vacuums a little path that doesn't go near the wall or any furniture.

          So - she took a long holiday in Ghana, and we got in a replacement. Who makes the place look 1000 times better working the same hours for the same pay. We didn't know there was a replacement (as she cleans after hours) at first - but everyone commented on how much better things were.

          Our psychic attack has worked so far - something delayed her and we've got an extra month of the good cleaner.

          Victoria J

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