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Thank you for thinking of my safety....NOT (another tale)
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If you get these, use them with extreme caution. A few years ago I had a pair on and walked out onto my ice covered front walkway. I stopped and stood at the top of a short flight of four steps. As I looked around I suddenly found myself on my back in the middle of the driveway, with no knowledge of the trip down the steps and onto the driveway. Fortunately I suffered no injuries. I never wore cleats again."I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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