sexism at it's greatest

[Blade]

Hell, I had that happen when I was shopping for a bed before (fairly young, but old enough to be living on my own at the time).

Salesperson from a specific culture or no, there's something distinctly creepy about a guy who will only speak to your *dad* about the mattress you're trying to buy, and ignore every attempt you both clearly make to redirect the conversation....

[Bella_Vixen]

I would also assume the same in cases of infiedility or paterity. HMMMM I had myself snipped and you got pregant. how did THAT happen????

It can happen. Rarely, but still...

[Jester]

The man got angryand complained. I don't think she got written up...

I understand why the guy complained. Basically, he was an asshole. They do that.

But I don't understand any basis she would have been written up for. She put up with his shit, was polite the whole time, took care of his paperwork, and very politely answered the last question he asked of her. He asked her who would be making decisions on his case, and she informed him that she would be that person. Any manager who would write her up for THAT should be shot, smacked, shoved, stewed, slammed, suckerpunched, splayed, splattered, stomped, snipped, snapped, slapped, stungunned, strangled, smothered, and any other violent words that starts with "s."

And that's when the poor salesman realized he'd been talking to the wrong person the whole time.

I love shit like that. My stepsister knows far more about cars than I do.
I'll cook circles around her. Hell, it's not even bragging when I say I cook better than the majority of the girls I've dated--it's just stating the truth!
I could list so many more examples of this stuff it's not even funny.
I do know that anyone who takes this attitude in these times is an idiot. I know a LOT of couples where the woman is either dominant, the money handler, or both.

You remind of Ben Kingsley's Dr. Watson in the movie "Without A Clue"... Michael Caine played Sherlock Holmes, who was really just an actor filling a role that Watson created. Holmes distracts the locals while Watson really solved the crimes.

Which in turn reminds me of that classic 80's show "Remington Steele," where Stephanie Zimbalist, a competent investigator, was forced to invent a male PI whom she "worked" for so that she could get work. And then of course Pierce Brosnan came along and assumed that role, and while he excelled at acting the part, in most cases, she was the one that got the real work done.


Edited To Add: Another awesome example of this in fiction is the 1996 action movie "The Long Kiss Goodnight," with Geena Davis as the gun-toting, ass-kicking killing machine, and Samuel L. Jackson as the bumbling semi-incompetent semi-clueless PI along for the really wild ride. (See this movie. You'll thank me. One of my all-time favorites. You'll be surprised how much it works, and how awesome these two are, along with the bad guy (Craig Bierko), who is at times hilarious, and Brian Cox's small role, which has to be seen to be believed. Especially his first seen with the dog. Don't ask....go see the movie.)

I would also assume the same in cases of infiedility or paterity. HMMMM I had myself snipped and you got pregant. how did THAT happen???? can you say Virgin Mary????

Vasectomies are not guaranteed. As much as it sucks, one can get the procedure done and still (rarely) manage to impregnate someone.

Personally, I think that the doctors who perform vasectomies should offer money-back guarantees if this happens!

[Marmalady]

Another little twist on the men / women car thing : when we got married, my ex and I both rode motorbikes. After a couple of years though, we decided that 4 wheels might be practical.
I passed my test first, but as my ex took a little longer, obviously we still had to have a Learners plate on our car.

I was a little shocked, in what I thought were enlightened times, to find that everyone (male and female alike) naturally assumed that if a married couple have an L plate on the car, it must be the woman who's the learner.

[Zoe Hates You]

Vasectomies are not guaranteed. As much as it sucks, one can get the procedure done and still (rarely) manage to impregnate someone.

Personally, I think that the doctors who perform vasectomies should offer money-back guarantees if this happens!

This happened to my husband's grandfather. Turns out his doctor was abusing painkillers and apparently cut the wrong line, and my mother-in-law was the result. There's one instance of gross medical malpractice for which I am thankful!

To comment on the overall theme of the thread, this happens every time we go to a restaurant that is nice enough to have a wine list. The waiters/hostesses always hand the wine list to my husband. ALWAYS. He just sighs and hands it to me because I'm the one who was taught how to distinguish a bordeaux from a burgundy at age 6 (don't worry, back then it was just by shape of bottle and translucency... I didn't learn to distinguish by taste till a little later on ), while he knows nothing about wine! Why don't they just hand him my menu, too, so that he can pick out my dinner for me as well? What's amazing to me is that it never occurs to any of them to be a little embarrassed that their sexism is showing.

[nicolecj]

My favorite is when I put MY debit card in the pay book and the waiter/waitress comes back and gives it to my fiancee... I have a feminine first name and his beard and general mechanic-like appearance generally dissuade people from thinking he is a girl!

[Andara Bledin]

That one is good. But it's even better when the watch you put the debit card in, and then still hand it back to him. That happens to me all the time.

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[ShootMePlease]

This happened to me the other day.

A man came up to me and asked me if I could help him with a TV. I told him I wasn't that familiar with them, but I would try. The supervisor (a man) came up and said he would help him. The man said "That's good ! He's a man !" and walked away. I felt humiliated

By the same token, a Middle Eastern man walked out of our store because we talked to his wife. Apparently, in certain cultures the woman walks behind the man and should not be spoken to.

[Mouse]

That one is good. But it's even better when the watch you put the debit card in, and then still hand it back to him. That happens to me all the time.

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I've done that on accident before, i have a habit of passing to the same spot at certain registers so if there's more than one person even though i know it comes from A if B's standing on that side i'll pass it to them. happens a lot durin a rush cause i'm on auto and it'll take me a moment to remember "thats not who it came from" >.<

[auntiem]

To comment on the overall theme of the thread, this happens every time we go to a restaurant that is nice enough to have a wine list. The waiters/hostesses always hand the wine list to my husband. ALWAYS. He just sighs and hands it to me because I'm the one who was taught how to distinguish a bordeaux from a burgundy at age 6 (don't worry, back then it was just by shape of bottle and translucency... I didn't learn to distinguish by taste till a little later on ), while he knows nothing about wine! Why don't they just hand him my menu, too, so that he can pick out my dinner for me as well? What's amazing to me is that it never occurs to any of them to be a little embarrassed that their sexism is showing.

I used to have a roomate that was a sommolier (sp?) and I asked him about the wine list thing a while back because it bugs me too. He said that the wine list is supposed to be handed to the host of the table - and that usually if it is a couple the assumption is that it is a date and that the man will be paying so it is handed to the man. It is meant to be formal politeness so that the other guest(s) don't see the price of the wine that is ordered. It is up to the host of the table to hand the list to another guest if they wish to do so. So there is sexism in assuming the male is paying but not in the fact that the male knows more about wine.

Jester- Long Kiss Goodnight is my favorite Christmas movie! I second seeing it to anyone who hasn't - but rent a copy, don't watch it on TV because depending on the channel they cut some of the best lines even though they aren't dirty. If you don't hear "chefs do that" during the kitchen scene turn off the TV and go rent the movie - that is the "ultra cut" version.

OP - I remember going into the office for the interview the first time I was unemployed, too bad they don't do it that way anymore.

[Jester]

To comment on the overall theme of the thread, this happens every time we go to a restaurant that is nice enough to have a wine list. The waiters/hostesses always hand the wine list to my husband. ALWAYS.

What's amazing to me is that it never occurs to any of them to be a little embarrassed that their sexism is showing.

As Auntiem said, this is not sexism so much as a formality that has been part of fine dining for decades. And personally, I don't think it's much to get bent out of shape over. When I am out with Little Red and they hand me the wine list, I just laugh and direct them to give it to her, as she is the wine expert at the table. A good server won't miss a beat, and will immediately turn their attention regarding the wine to Red, and will pour her that first taste that they do when you order a bottle. A bad server will pour me that taste, even after we have designated her the wine person and she has made the selection.

Jester- Long Kiss Goodnight is my favorite Christmas movie! I second seeing it to anyone who hasn't - but rent a copy, don't watch it on TV because depending on the channel they cut some of the best lines even though they aren't dirty.

I recommend renting or buying the dvd, watching it uncut on cable, or getting it On Demand if you have that option with your cable company. However you do it, make sure you get the uncut, unedited version. But then, I recommend that with any movie anyway!

If you don't hear "chefs do that" during the kitchen scene turn off the TV and go rent the movie - that is the "ultra cut" version.

They cut out "chefs do that"!??!? But.....WHY?

By the way, some of the greatest lines in the whole movie would have to be cut for a network tv showing, so why bother? See the uncut version!

"But what about the children?" Well, either your kids are old enough and intelligent enough to handle violence and foul language, or they aren't. And if they aren't, you shouldn't be having them watch this movie anyway!

[auntiem]

They cut out "chefs do that"!??!? But.....WHY?

spoiler alert -



If they cut the line when she thows the knife they also cut the scene where she snaps the guy's neck and again says "chefs do that" to her fella.
The ultra cut version also cuts "oh, now you're a sharp shooter" line - which I think is stupid because when I was a kid that was a line (or something similar) used on regular tv cops shows.

[Jester]

I understand cutting the sharp shooter line far more than the "chefs do that" line, especially if you're talking about her first knife-throwing scene when they're prepping veggies. The first one is a specific reference to having a small penis. The second one is....what? Saying chefs throw knifes? Having known a few chefs, I know that this is not always that far from the truth!

[Amethyst Hunter]

Another awesome example of this in fiction is the 1996 action movie "The Long Kiss Goodnight," with Geena Davis as the gun-toting, ass-kicking killing machine, and Samuel L. Jackson as the bumbling semi-incompetent semi-clueless PI along for the really wild ride. [I](See this movie. You'll thank me. One of my all-time favorites. You'll be surprised how much it works, and how awesome these two are

Samuel L. Jackson is just plain awesome. He's the reason I sat through "Motherfucking" Snakes On A "Motherfucking" Plane. Geena Davis is cool too.

Now I'm curious, so I will have to find a way to watch this movie (don't have a Netflix account and can't get one on account of not having a debit card). And I agree about the uncut versions of movies - I HATE when a perfectly good movie gets reduced to a wimpy editing job (especially a poor one where it's pretty obvious that the actors' lip-actions don't match what you hear onscreen - a good example of this is the scene in The Great Outdoors where the families are all shouting at one another and characters are telling each other to "blow it out your ass", which was edited in one showing so that what came out was "blow it out your kazoo")

Vasectomies are not guaranteed.

Neither are tubals, unfortunately. In very rare cases the tubes have been known to re-fuse, or, if they were clamped instead of being completely severed, the clamps fail.

Not that this should put anybody who's interested in sterilization off of it. Though when I get sterilized I'm going the Essure route: they stick little coils up in there, wait about 3 months for scar tissue to grow and block the tubes, then they test to make sure the tubes are completely blocked, and voila', if everything goes as it's supposed to, you are in the clear.

[AccountingDrone]

Neither are tubals, unfortunately. In very rare cases the tubes have been known to re-fuse, or, if they were clamped instead of being completely severed, the clamps fail.

<waves> Hi ... =)

If I was an indian, and I had been able to carry to term without dying, my 3 kids would be named OrthoNovum Dont Work, OrthoNovum Dont Work Rubber Broke and Youre Shitting Me My Tubal Failed.

I had gone in to the Navy bases hospital for a follow up appointment 4 months after surgery to remove an abdominal tumor, and they routinely took urine for a bunny test no matter what, and I always had to still pee in the damned cup despite the tubal because it was hospital policy. Bright and early one morning a couple days later, I got a call with the result [again hospital policy. I was accustomed to lots of negative calls] where the tech was a cheery 'And congratulations can I put you through to central appointments for a follow up appointment?' and an absentminded But I just had my final follow up appointment .... to be responded to with a 'For the routine prenatal checkups and to pick an OB' and an automatic reply of "You have got to be shitting me, I had my tubes tied 10 years ago" ...... to hear a tiny 'oh my...' from the poor guy.