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  • Yes, I will risk my job for you! /sarcasm

    I'm irish. Here, there is a 22c government charge on bags, a 'bag tax'. If someone from the government is in a store, and finds that a cashier isn't charging the bag tax, they can fire them on the spot. (End of backstory)

    This was a couple of years ago. I was working in a fairly cheap store. We had run out of paper bags (which are free), and only had plastic ones. A customer came up to me, with quite a few items, which was fine. As I was ringing up the purchase, I said something to the tune of: "Unfortunately, I'm going to have to charge you the 22c bag tax, as we've no paper bags large enough for all your purchases. All I have is the plastic ones."

    The customer's response? "Well, go get some!"
    Me: "Sorry, but I can't. We've completely run out. There's none in stock, even."
    Customer: "Well, since it's your fault, you shouldn't charge me for the plastic bag."
    Me: "I'm afraid I can't do that, sir. It's a government tax. We all have to pay it. I could lose my job if I didn't charge you."

    *there was gritting of the teeth at the blame, but I remained polite and friendly, as well as apologetic*

    Customer: "That's your own fault for not making sure you had the paper bags."
    Cashier next to me: "Actually, we've not got any because none have been delivered to the store. Blame head office."
    Customer: "Well, I wasn't charged the 22c anywhere else, so why should I be charged in a cheap store like this?"

    At this point I had gotten fed up and finished off the transaction, 22c included.

    Ok, that guy bought a fair amount of stuff, over 100 Euro. I could have let him off, but since it's a government tax, and I was using that job to fund a year abroad, I didn't want to risk being fired. Besides, there's always a chance that if a manager came along, I would have asked to let the customer off the charge. However, blaming me for the lack of paper bags lost that possibility.

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    I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying a GOVERNMENT employee can fire a private sector employee for not collecting the bag tax?
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    • #3
      First, to !

      And my guess would be that the gov't person can have you fired, rather than doing it directly? I'm guessing they use "tax evasion" as the excuse, yes?
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      • #4
        Quoth Panacea View Post
        I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying a GOVERNMENT employee can fire a private sector employee for not collecting the bag tax?
        I took it to mean that the government could levy fines and/or harass the employer, who could then fire her.
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        • #5
          Quoth Panacea View Post
          I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying a GOVERNMENT employee can fire a private sector employee for not collecting the bag tax?
          If something is the LAW, then yes they can!

          If not, then why do people check ID's and only accept the ones that are legally allowed? Because the government has stings and can arrest you and cart you off to jail and then you can be fired and fined.

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          • #6
            that's a sucky law and the store/corporate should (ideally) waive the fee when they aren't able to supply the paper bags, so i feel he was in the right for being upset, but didn't handle it very well.

            you simply were caught in the middle with no real solution.
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            • #7
              Alright everyone. Let's take our opinions about the law to Fratching and focus on the SC, ok? Nothing the OP can do about local laws.
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              • #8
                I think this law is for the same reason as for us, namely to reduce garbage. And it MIGHT be so that the law says that it is the customer who must pay, and the store cannot give this as a gift, all in the name of recycling.

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                • #9
                  i should restate that; the law itself isn't sucky, the way the store handles the situation is what sucks.

                  if they can't offer bags that don't cost, they should offer an alternative or sell the reusables. i like the reusables myself.
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                  Sorry, but while I can do many things, extracting heads from anuses isn't one of them. (so sayeth the irv)

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                  • #10
                    Welcome to the forum, Lady Shiva.

                    Customer: "Well, I wasn't charged the 22c anywhere else, so why should I be charged in a cheap store like this?"
                    Did all the other stores also run out of paper bags? I call BS on that comment.

                    And he should complain to the government about the tax, not the person who has to collect it.
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