"regular" is not a size....

[Jester]

I will order a burger for myself in the negative aspect, i.e., what I don't want. But first I will do something that no SC does: I will read the menu and find out what is on the various burger offerings. For that matter, I'll see what is on or in anything I order, burger, sandwich, or other type of dish. Because, while there are not a lot of things I don't like, what I don't like I really don't like. So, after making my selection mentally, I would tell the server, "Yes, I'd like the Andara's Artery Clogger Burger, please, medium rare, with no ketchup or avocado." Simple. Direct. Easy.
Three things SC are simply not capable of.

[hinakiba777]

(unless i'm at the little red-head's drive through, where i'll get a child's chocolate frozen treat for my fries)

Oh I LOVE to do that. Sadly, lately when I can get to that spot I get the chocolate frozen treat mixed with cola, and i'm not putting fries in my cola. Nor will the people with me allow me to get the float and the frosted dessert >.<

[Miss Maple Leaf]

Although, I'm not quite to Jimmy the Tulip's anger levels over it.

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Okay, I'm not that bad about my mayo hate. I certainly don't go psycho about it.

If other people want mayo on their food, then all the power to them, just as long as they don't expect me to touch it. Gimme yummy yummy mustard instead.

[Caractacus_Potts]

To be fair, though, if you order a burger with "just ketchup" or something along those lines, if they don't bring you a bun, they are following your instructions to the letter.
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Oh, I clarified with the waiter. Burger, bun and ketchup. He actually showed me the ticket he sent to the kitchen. It said, "Plain burger, ketchup only". I don't blame the kitchen for not being able to interpret that (and I gave the server a good tip as many would have simply blamed the kitchen).

Lou's Lunch in New Haven Connecticut. That's where they invented the hamburger (seriously)

The Mongols used to put raw meat under their saddles to soften and eat on the go as needed (the original fast food?). The Russians called the Mongol barbarians Tartars and when the Mongols invaded Russia the Russians adopted the "ground" raw beef calling it "steak tartare". Centuries later Hamburg was a major trading port in Germany. As they traded with Russian coastal towns they brought back steak tartare. Within the next hundred years the people of Hamburg had started frying steak tartare, often with onions. In the 1800's hawkers in NY, trying to attract the custom of German immigrants, would sell "Hamburg Steak" or "Steak in the Hamburg Style". At some point in the mid to late 1800's someone began putting Hamburg steak between two pieces of bread and calling it a "Hamburger". No one knows who made the first Hamburg Steak sandwich or who first called it a hamburger although several make the claim.

The only part that I can actually vet is the last sentence as it is the only part of the article I researched myself.

I have sometimes heard that many places 'up north' regard ketchup as the Anti-Condiment

Maybe in the Midwest or West? I love ketchup, was born and raised in New England and I have never gotten any sort of funny look for asking for ketchup (catchup, catsup). I've also never been to a restaurant, sub shop, grocery store, beach food stand, etc. where they didn't have any (which is probably more telling RE our love of tomato ketchup even if few here know who Sandy Addison is or thank the noble state of Virginia).

Once I went to Wendy's to get a Baconator and I got it with just bacon and cheese.

At a Wendy's drive-thru:

Me: I'll have a double cheeseburger without the cheese (note: I only go ketchup only in real restaurants and at home with fresh ground chuck)
Manager: (chuckles) Wouldn't that be a double hamburger?
Me: Well, yeah; but you don't have a double hamburger on the menu.
(thirty seconds of silence)
Manager: Hey! You're right! We DON'T have a double hamburger on the menu!1!

[hinakiba777]

At a Wendy's drive-thru:

Me: I'll have a double cheeseburger without the cheese (note: I only go ketchup only in real restaurants and at home with fresh ground chuck)
Manager: (chuckles) Wouldn't that be a double hamburger?
Me: Well, yeah; but you don't have a double hamburger on the menu.
(thirty seconds of silence)
Manager: Hey! You're right! We DON'T have a double hamburger on the menu!1!

Haha this reminds me of this awesome breakfast place I know. They have the most amazing food, but for whatever reasons they don't have milk on their menu. Oh, they SERVE milk. They serve white and chocolate milk, they just don't have it on the menu. It's really confusing for some people. I know I was lost the first time it happened to me.

[EricKei]

Oh, they SERVE milk. They serve white and chocolate milk, they just don't have it on the menu. I know I was lost the first time it happened to me.

I've seen that before, too! ^_^ I just figure any non-fast food place I go to HAS to have cow juice back there somewhere, given that a number of basic dishes require it, even if they don't "officially" sell it.

Well, I guess it would be safe for most of you guys to eat here If you order a po-boy sandwich "dressed" here, you would get lettuce, tomato, pickles, and mayo (real actual mayo, not miracle whip, ugh) --- asking for ketchup on a sammich like these would just get you a funny look, but then again, so might asking for no mayo. Heck, many poboys do just fine with just roast beef gravy on them (and I know people who use butter (not oleo (aka margarine)....EVER) as a substitute for mayo)

[hinakiba777]

would just get you a funny look, but then again, so might asking for no mayo.

I'm used to the funny look. As long as no one tries to murder me by "testing" the "sincerity" of my allergy. This has happened many times, but only twice in a restaurant.

[Jester]

I've also never been to a restaurant, sub shop, grocery store, beach food stand, etc. where they didn't have any.

There are many hot dog restaurants/shops in the Chicago area that do not stock any ketchup, as putting ketchup on a hot dog (especially a Chicago dog, which is a hot dog with very specific toppings) in Chicago is generally considered to be just one step below accepting thirty pieces of silver to betray the Messiah. In some areas, not even a full step.

Me: Well, yeah; but you don't have a double hamburger on the menu.
(thirty seconds of silence)
Manager: Hey! You're right! We DON'T have a double hamburger on the menu!1!

Bonus points to you for pointing it out. Double bonus points to the manager for admitting it!

real actual mayo, not miracle whip

I love mayo. I'll lick it off the spoon. But Miracle Whip is NOT mayonnaise. It borders on blasphemy to put them in the same category, if you ask me.

[HappyFun Ball]

At a Wendy's drive-thru:

Me: I'll have a double cheeseburger without the cheese (note: I only go ketchup only in real restaurants and at home with fresh ground chuck)
Manager: (chuckles) Wouldn't that be a double hamburger?
Me: Well, yeah; but you don't have a double hamburger on the menu.
(thirty seconds of silence)
Manager: Hey! You're right! We DON'T have a double hamburger on the menu!1!

My husband does the same thing at McD's.. A McDouble (A double cheeseburger with one slice of cheese is 1.00$.. A double hamburger with no cheese is 1.69$)


And at a lot of fast food places here, the sizes are as followed (And yes, this is on the menu as this): Small, Regular, Large, Super Size.. But then I live in the South. I can see your point, it reminds me of when I went to Six Flags and ordered an Icee and when I asked the flavors, I was told "Red and Blue".

[Caractacus_Potts]

My husband does the same thing at McD's.. A McDouble (A double cheeseburger with one slice of cheese is 1.00$.. A double hamburger with no cheese is 1.69$)

When McD's was doing their 49 cent hamburger and 59 cent cheeseburger promotion decades ago I told anyone ordering a double cheeseburger that they would get a better deal if they ordered two cheeseburgers and combined them. Most people ignored my suggestion and I stopped offering it after one guy started screaming at me for daring to offer a suggestion instead of just taking his money and giving him his food like I was paid to do.

And at a lot of fast food places here, the sizes are as followed (And yes, this is on the menu as this): Small, Regular, Large, Super Size

A seasonal soft serve ice cream place lists their cone sizes on the menu as: Kiddie, Child, Small, Regular, Medium, Large and Extra Large. I made the mistake of ordering a "regular" the first time I ever went there and I wound up with a hand sized cone with about a 12" tall tower of soft serve. I can only imagine what the medium, large and extra large are like (since I have never seen anyone attempt to order anything bigger than the regular). I stick with the Kiddie.

[dalesys]

We have a condiment 'out yar' that could start some of you retching from your tail bone! It's called 'Fry sauce': 1 part ketchup, 2 parts mayo plus some pickle juice.

[EricKei]

But Miracle Whip is NOT mayonnaise. It borders on blasphemy to put them in the same category, if you ask me.

Preaching to the choir here, Brother

A snoball place here dispenses with "named" sizes entirely. They just have a row of cups with prices on them, and you order by price (1.10, 1.30, 1.50, 1.80, 2.10, 7.00)....That last one is something I've only seen ordered ONCE, ever. It's essentially a vat of snoball (soft, finely shaved ice) a bit smaller than a half-gallon tub of ice cream, meant to be consumed by 5+ people simultaneously, and will often have as many flavors striped through it.

[Jay 2K Winger]

There are many hot dog restaurants/shops in the Chicago area that do not stock any ketchup, as putting ketchup on a hot dog (especially a Chicago dog, which is a hot dog with very specific toppings) in Chicago is generally considered to be just one step below accepting thirty pieces of silver to betray the Messiah. In some areas, not even a full step.

You don't have to tell me this. I don't live in Chicago, myself, only been there perhaps twice in my life, but I know about the "ketchup on hot dog = cardinal sin" rule of Chicago. How do I know this? On another forum, about a year ago, a thread got completely derailed on the subject of what condiments are permissible on your hot dog, as so many Chicagoans chimed in with their opinions.

FTR, I don't put any condiments on my hot dogs.

[Jester]

I can only imagine what the medium, large and extra large are like (since I have never seen anyone attempt to order anything bigger than the regular).

The extra large comes with its own parking crew.

FTR, I don't put any condiments on my hot dogs.

FTR, there is almost nothing better on earth than a good, true Chicago dog with everything on it.

Speaking of stupidly large things, my bar has a "cocktail" that is $32, comes in a gallon bucket, is equivalent to 10+ cocktails, and is designed to be drank by 2-4 people. We finish it off with oranges soaked in 151, which are then lit on fire. In my four years working there, I have seen a total of 4 people polish this off on their own, without any help. One of these days, I will add my name to that list.

People can argue who has the best cocktails on this island. When it comes to the biggest, there is no argument, no debate. We win, buckets down.

[Andara Bledin]

That last one is something I've only seen ordered ONCE, ever. It's essentially a vat of snoball (soft, finely shaved ice) a bit smaller than a half-gallon tub of ice cream, meant to be consumed by 5+ people simultaneously, and will often have as many flavors striped through it.

When I was still a practicing rennie, our crew would ask the vendors who did shaved ice for a bowl-ful semi-regularly throughout the days, since it got really hot at most faires. They usually charged us only a few bucks and were more than happy to fill whatever bowl-type receptacle we'd brought up.

Speaking of stupidly large things, my bar has a "cocktail" that is $32, comes in a gallon bucket, is equivalent to 10+ cocktails, and is designed to be drank by 2-4 people.

That's like something they had at Quark's in Vegas. It was called a Warp Core Breach, and I don't think they'd even let you order it without at least 2 people.

The glass it was served in was about the size of a regular goldfish bowl.

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