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  • Some Peeves, some Sigh

    I'm not sure if this goes here or elsewhere, first posting and all. If it needs to be moved elsewhere, feel free to.


    Background: I work at a GameStore that's kinda hidden so we generally don't get many individual SCs. For games that are rated M you need to be 17+ and be able to prove it with some form of ID. We ID if the person looks under 30, as per company policy. /end of background


    This is mainly pet peeves as opposed to specific SCs, since these things happen frequently enough that there isn't just one SC, though some are specific.



    Guy and his brother come in, look around, and find some games to buy. All is well and find, until they present a card, which they use as credit. The name on the card is "Mary". Needless to say, they can't use that form of payment now, unless Mom can come in from the car. Oh? She's not here? No, you're not allowed to call Mom and have her say its OK. No, you cannot use that card as debit now, I know its not yours. After having to repeat that multiple times, they get the idea, leave and come back with cash.


    People come in with games to trade in, we do that here. Please don't complain to me about how much you're getting for your games. I can't change that. If your discs are so scratched I see gouges, please don't expect to get full credit for it. Saying it works doesn't change a thing. You wouldn't want to buy a game that looks like that, now would you? Also, when you're trading in $160 worth of games, and I sell you our card that costs $15 but gives you 10% extra on game trades, don't look at me like I'm trying to rip you off. Not only are you gaining $1 from that, I'm honestly not trying to rip you off. I swear.


    Yay, your credit card's name matches your gender. But! Your card isn't signed. So we need ID to prove that you are, in fact, you. What's this? You drove here without any ID? I saw you pull in front of our store in your car. No, you can't just sign your card now, it doesn't work that way. We can hold this stuff while you go get your ID though.


    Little kid, you want to buy Grand Theft Auto? OK, where's your parent? 4 stores down? Well, yeah, they will have to come over here and OK that. (Usually this kind of thing happens when the kid in question looks 13-ish, and doesn't have a cell phone.)


    There was one day when this 8-10ish yr old kid walked into my store in a full suit, looked around, asked prices of some games, we told him, and he left. All the time he was polite, well mannered, and understanding of the fact that he couldn't get a M rated game without a parent. As he left, he walked away out of view, and all the while my coworker and I just kinda wondered where his parents were. We never did find out. Stuff like that happens all the time, though normally the kids are in "normal" clothes. I could understand if we were in a mall, where its all one enclosed area. But we're in a strip center. Little Junior could walk out into the street and get hit, as the drivers coming into and out of our strip can be crazy.


    A lady came in the night before the red Wii came out during the holidays. She was getting gifts, and had a PS3, was reserving the red Wii, and was getting some controllers & games that night as well. Her total was somewhere around $500. Well, of course her Amex card comes up with "call for authorization". In these cases, we have a # to call that we have to use, and *we* have to be the people calling. We cannot use a # the customer provides, and they cannot call and give us an authorization number. So while I tell her that her card came up like that, she's all "I'll call them, give me a sec." and I explain to her that we can't do that. She ends up leaving and not coming back - my coworker and I figure she hit her limit and was trying to go over it before Amex noticed. Sadly, I really could have used the reserve that night.

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    "I figure she hit her limit and was trying to go over it before Amex noticed"

    I don't mean to burst your bubble, but that scenario *screams* stolen card. We have people try to give us generic authorization codes whenever that happens, and it 99% of the time is someone with a card they made themselves.

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    • #3
      Midnight, I lubs you! you actually comprehend how the authorization process works! I can't tell you how many SE's (service Establishments) try to have the CM call in. Umm, you cant get an auth code CM and you can't req pending charge be released. sigh

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      • #4
        Quoth bacchinalus View Post
        "I figure she hit her limit and was trying to go over it before Amex noticed"

        I don't mean to burst your bubble, but that scenario *screams* stolen card. We have people try to give us generic authorization codes whenever that happens, and it 99% of the time is someone with a card they made themselves.

        Its a possibility. It was during the holidays, so I don't recall whether or not I carded her. On large purchases we usually ID whether or not the card is signed, so I might have, but I really don't remember.

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        • #5
          Numbering each of your pet peeves in order I'll go through them:

          1) I swear that scenario reminded me of a guy Lupo had who tried to pass off a card as his...which had the same Susan written on it. Did you end up keeping the card? (Also, a good way to check for fake credit cards is to check the numbers on the front and back-if they don't match, there's a good chance it's fake)

          2) Usually the games I trade in are in perfect condition and if not, my local Gametraders has a disc repair service which allows me to repair the discs first.

          3) I've had a few people try and pull that, claiming that "it's from my country so I don't need to sign it." I don't care, I'm not taking a card without signature.

          4) Is that M rating law or is that just a recommendation set by your Classification Board? Down here in Ausland, at the moment, M is a suggestion (meaning that kids under 15 really shouldn't see/play it), MA15+ is LAW (meaning you HAVE to 15 to buy it and/or you need a parent or guardian with you).

          5) It's sad how many parents consider gaming stores to be a place to dump their kids for a few hours.

          6) Again, did you keep the card?
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          • #6
            Quoth fireheart View Post
            4) Is that M rating law or is that just a recommendation set by your Classification Board? Down here in Ausland, at the moment, M is a suggestion (meaning that kids under 15 really shouldn't see/play it), MA15+ is LAW (meaning you HAVE to 15 to buy it and/or you need a parent or guardian with you).
            Ratings are a suggestion and because most gamers would like it to stay that way, most stores have it as policy.

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            • #7
              We're actually not allowed to keep any card. Its official policy. Only exception is if it gets forgotten in the store, then it gets thrown in the safe.

              As for M rated games, I don't know if its law per say, but if we get caught selling to a minor we would loose our jobs. (Yes, would loose our jobs, not could.) I generally card anyone who looks like they could be 25 or younger, just to be safe. A store manager at another store actually was forcibly moved to another store because she didn't card a personal friend of hers. Our rating board goes EC/E/E10+/T/M/AO, where most mortal&brick stores don't carry AO games. (They're all pornographic, excessively graphic, etc.)

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              • #8
                Quoth midnightaurora View Post
                Our rating board goes EC/E/E10+/T/M/AO, where most mortal&brick stores don't carry AO games. (They're all pornographic, excessively graphic, etc.)
                Mortal&brick eh?Any stores that are immortal&brick? (and at 11pm at night, I kept typing that as immoral&brick)

                Also what country has that rating system?
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                • #9
                  Background: I work at a GameStore that's kinda hidden so we generally don't get many individual SCs. For games that are rated M you need to be 17+ and be able to prove it with some form of ID. We ID if the person looks under 30, as per company policy. /end of background
                  i'm getting register trained at work too (o joy) and yes, i too have to ask for ID if they're getting Mature games.

                  And must see ID if it's not signed.

                  no one's given me a hard time about it yet. thankfully. but i'm also obviously in training too cos i'm wearing my department outfit and not the regular store outfit.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth fireheart View Post
                    Mortal&brick eh?Any stores that are immortal&brick? (and at 11pm at night, I kept typing that as immoral&brick)

                    Also what country has that rating system?
                    Well, by definition all mortar&brick stores are rather mortal - least round here, stores close at a drop of a hat anymore. That's what I meant, honest

                    USA - we have the ESRB rating system. EC = Early Childhood (which there are very few games from my store anyway); E = Everyone; E10+ = Everyone 10 and up; T = Teen; M = Mature; AO = Adults Only.

                    It's not a bad system, but it does have a little lacking, sadly. For example, Lego Batman is rated E10+ but its a great game to give to 5-6yr olds, because there is no reading at all in it.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth fireheart View Post
                      1) I swear that scenario reminded me of a guy Lupo had who tried to pass off a card as his...which had the same Susan written on it.
                      I'm reminded of one of those World's Dumbest Criminals books which had a story in which a man comes into a check-cashing place and tries to cash a check, claiming it was his. The agent looks at the check and sees that it had been made out to a couple. On questioning, the man claimed that his name was actually "John And Mary Smith", because his mother had been expecting twins but he was the only one born, so they gave him both names. Gotta give the guy points for ingenuity, but I can't see anyone over the age of third grade buying that story.

                      (We need a :shyeah-right: icon, I think. Untill then, should work...)

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Shalom View Post
                        I'm reminded of one of those World's Dumbest Criminals books which had a story in which a man comes into a check-cashing place and tries to cash a check, claiming it was his. The agent looks at the check and sees that it had been made out to a couple. On questioning, the man claimed that his name was actually "John And Mary Smith", because his mother had been expecting twins but he was the only one born, so they gave him both names.
                        Many years ago I heard a story about a temp in the IRS mailroom that had stolen a bunch of checks and cashed them by altering the Pay To section and getting a fake ID...

                        IRS

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                        • #13
                          Quoth fireheart View Post
                          4) Is that M rating law or is that just a recommendation set by your Classification Board? Down here in Ausland, at the moment, M is a suggestion (meaning that kids under 15 really shouldn't see/play it), MA15+ is LAW (meaning you HAVE to 15 to buy it and/or you need a parent or guardian with you).
                          Not law, but some companies take it really seriously. I worked at a Blockbuster when Doom 3 came out, and with every rental/sale of the game, we had to check id, and record the ID# number to cover our butts. Even a single one missed would result in a write-up and/or termination.

                          When I was in 9th grade, a friend of mine went to see an 'R' rated movie, by himself. He was 14, bought the ticket himself, and was never asked for id.
                          His father sued the theater.
                          IIRC, he agreed to settle out of court for 500 'free admission' passes.
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                          • #14
                            i haven't tried lego bat man but i've played Lego Star Wars - the complete saga. my bf picked it up used. OMG that's addictive. and cuteness overload.

                            and very very very E rated. the naughtiest thing you can do is give dirty, er... creative , names to the guys in the tanks. I named one "WookieLove4Rent" and the other "Dark Helmet".


                            and wtf suing the theatre? I'm wondering if he sent junior in on purpose now... cos hell his son knew what he was doing when he went in.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth infinitemonkies View Post
                              When I was in 9th grade, a friend of mine went to see an 'R' rated movie, by himself. He was 14, bought the ticket himself, and was never asked for id.
                              His father sued the theater.
                              IIRC, he agreed to settle out of court for 500 'free admission' passes.
                              Theaters check ID for R-Rated moviegoers over 12 now? o_O

                              And wait, the dad sued the theater because HE allowed his son go see the movie, and apparently had not impressed upon the son that he was not to see R movies... >_< Makes perfect sense to me...
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