Sucky auction dude

[HYHYBT]

Do I have his illogic right? "This *antique* is worthless because some of the parts are too old"? Isn't old a *good* thing in antiques, especially if they still work?

Oh, one serious question, if I may: you mentioned doing 99¢ auctions. For a seller, what's the point? You still have to pay the site's fees (though I admit, being only a buyer, that I don't know what they are) and go through the trouble of listing, collecting payment, shipping the thing, etc., which seems like a lot of trouble for a dollar.

[trunks2k]

He'd buy it at almost half the the cost so you don't have to "suffer" by relisting it? Let's say you were wrong and he was right, what would the problem be with relisting besides having to wait a bit longer for the money?

[MadMike]

Do I have his illogic right? "This *antique* is worthless because some of the parts are too old"? Isn't old a *good* thing in antiques, especially if they still work?

But he doesn't want any of those crappy old antiques. He wants brand new antiques, dammit!

[tollbaby]

Oh, one serious question, if I may: you mentioned doing 99¢ auctions. For a seller, what's the point? You still have to pay the site's fees (though I admit, being only a buyer, that I don't know what they are) and go through the trouble of listing, collecting payment, shipping the thing, etc., which seems like a lot of trouble for a dollar.

Back when I still listed stuff on Ebay, listing price was like $0.60.... and 99¢ items rarely sell for 99¢ They usually get bid on and go higher up (I don't think I've ever seen a BUY IT NOW auction for 99¢... those are the ones that when you put in your bid, you've automatically bought the item). And you always charge the buyer full shipping, so that doesn't come out of your "profit" either.

[Gurndigarn]

Oh, one serious question, if I may: you mentioned doing 99¢ auctions. For a seller, what's the point? You still have to pay the site's fees (though I admit, being only a buyer, that I don't know what they are) and go through the trouble of listing, collecting payment, shipping the thing, etc., which seems like a lot of trouble for a dollar.

You can often, depending on the item being sold, do side deals that don't end up with payments going to ebay. For instance, one of my prior bosses runs a junkyard. When he gets a car with unique parts that he plans to dissect, he'll do something like offer the starter switch starting at 99 cents. Then inevitably, he'll get emails asking if he's sold the engine... and the tranny... and the fenders... and the radiator... and the fuzzy dice...

[HalloranElder]

Oh, one serious question, if I may: you mentioned doing 99¢ auctions. For a seller, what's the point? You still have to pay the site's fees (though I admit, being only a buyer, that I don't know what they are) and go through the trouble of listing, collecting payment, shipping the thing, etc., which seems like a lot of trouble for a dollar.

I seen (and bought) a number of "Buy It Now" auctions for 99¢ or similar.

It's a bit of a work around to get past eBay's fees. The item is 99¢, but the postage is listed as $14 even though it only costs them about $3, so you are getting a $12 item, but they are only paying fees on a 99¢ item.

[Hemily]

eBay seems a bit strange at times, a friend often buys parts for his car on eBay, as it's some rarer parts for his e21 or e30 BMW, sometimes even old Nintendo games, he uses his brothers VISA to order them, but as his brother lost his card and got a new, some payment got delayed, he almost got banned from eBay...
a bit strict there, then again, it is about money, so it's understandable in a way.

[Kusanagi]

SQUALL:

There's a chance you are bing scammed. What email account is he using? PM me with it and let me take a look at the headers. What's his feedback rating? etc?

I've been scammed before from people that send fake money orders or cashiers checks (I also get them from people because I'm a scambaiter in what little free time I have!) and when they bounce, you're responsible for the amount. So you're out the item AND whatever the check/money order.

[Auto]

SQUALL:

I've been scammed before from people that send fake money orders or cashiers checks (I also get them from people because I'm a scambaiter in what little free time I have!) and when they bounce, you're responsible for the amount. So you're out the item AND whatever the check/money order.

Washington Post had an article about this the other day. It said that anyone who pays with a check that's drawn for amount larger than the purchase (and who wants you to send them a check for the difference) is a scammer, no two ways about it.

As the Post writer asked, how often does anyone normal write a check for more than the amount of the transaction and then mail it to a stranger asking him to send you a check for the difference? It's what you used to do in grocery stores where you were known and nowhere else.

[Kusanagi]

Washington Post had an article about this the other day. It said that anyone who pays with a check that's drawn for amount larger than the purchase (and who wants you to send them a check for the difference) is a scammer, no two ways about it.

As the Post writer asked, how often does anyone normal write a check for more than the amount of the transaction and then mail it to a stranger asking him to send you a check for the difference? It's what you used to do in grocery stores where you were known and nowhere else.

What happens in those cases is that the scammer will want you to send them the difference via Moneygram or Western Union and never a check, which can be recalled. WUXFER is completely annonymous and once someone gets the money they can cut and run, no two ways about it.

Alot of auction scammers are wise to this, and instead will simply send a fake payment in the amount listed so they can get the item in question.

http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Read this to see a great way someone got back at an ebay scammer.

[SongsOfDragons]

Yannow, I know people who do this on Gaia Online...for fake items made of pixels.

[squall]

SQUALL:

There's a chance you are bing scammed. What email account is he using? PM me with it and let me take a look at the headers. What's his feedback rating? etc?

I've been scammed before from people that send fake money orders or cashiers checks (I also get them from people because I'm a scambaiter in what little free time I have!) and when they bounce, you're responsible for the amount. So you're out the item AND whatever the check/money order.

I'm well aware that he might be a scammer, I intend on taking a good look at his check or money order. I used to work in a bank, so I can spot check them for fraud. Whatever happens after that, I will make sure payment clears before I send item. I gave him an unpaid item strike today. Sometimes that will light a fire under their ass.

[Geek King]

I'm well aware that he might be a scammer, I intend on taking a good look at his check or money order. I used to work in a bank, so I can spot check them for fraud. Whatever happens after that, I will make sure payment clears before I send item. I gave him an unpaid item strike today. Sometimes that will light a fire under their ass.

Sorry sqall, but don't count on spotting the forgery. I get to hear stories, literally everyday, about trained bank personnel who clear a money order as legit, only to have it come back as fake up to six weeks later. Some of the personnel are bank management, and are supposedly trained in spotting such things. In short, a good scammer has a printer that can fake all the security on a money order, and you won't know until the bank comes after you for the money.

[squall]

Well here's the update. After 3 weeks of messing with this fool, I gave him a 48 hour deadline to contact me and an unpaid item strike. None of that brought the buyer out of hiding, so I gave him negative feedback today. It's done. Even if I got the payment in the next day or so, it's just too damn late. He may give me my first negative feedback for revenge. I don't really care because who's going to believe somebody who's positive rating is probably below 90 percent now.

And here's the feedback I left him: Private feedback for a reason. Makes excuses, dodgy, never paid. Poor grammar.

[squall]

He revenged against me....gave me negative feedback. Once again, you see how unintelligible his English is, and the lies he has concocted against me.

To MeBUYER BEWARE) WAS SEND MONEY TOOK CASH! Threathened to leave negative BEWARE!

My response:Lies! This is revenge feedback to negative for nonpayment and lack of contact.

I did threaten him with negative feedback, but it's been three weeks and three excuses....what else was I to do.

I then sent him this message through ebay message...limit 1000 characters:

"Dear douchebag,
So now you finally decided to show signs of life....you really had no intention of fulfilling the end of the auction, did you? Didn't like your final bid? Too bad. You could have contacted me and told me you were going to pay the measly relist fee, and you could have avoided negative feedback. But what do you care, you hide behind private feedback....just how many times have you wronged people in your life? If you sent payment, why didn't you tell me? Why is your address and email not listed? Are you a foreign scammer? Well your English sucks.....an abomination of the English language....your emails are unintelligible...I mean absolutely horrendous. So to cover your nonpaying rotten ass, you concoct lies saying that I told you send cash....bull honkey....and give me negative feedback. Big deal, see, I'm more trustworthy than you are. I now have 98.7 percent negative feedback, and you have 90, and it's private. So nobody's going to believe what you say."

The whole thing about sending cash I will explain now. See, in the auction dispute, he claims I told him to send cash hidden in an envelope. I did no such thing, it is frowned upon by eBay, and the mail services. I told him I accept paypal, check, and money order. He said he would send money order. So the reason he's saying I told him to send cash is a lie to cover his own mistake and exact revenge against me. But I'm just glad it's over now. I think I came away looking the best in the situation.