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    Scrooge McDuck Lives!

    Inquiry: Hi, I'm looking for a quote on a new site design. My website currently makes like $5k a month, but I want a better look so that hopefully I'll get more traffic and up my income.

    Seraph: Ok, well base price for that type of stuff starts at about $300.

    Inquiry: Thats way too high

    Seraph: I'd say its a more than fair price to start out with, to be honest.

    Inquiry: I was hoping your prices would be more along the lines of fiverr.

    Seraph: That's almost delusional.

    Inquiry: if you can't match, then bye.

    * Note: Fiverr? Its a website where everything is $5, and yeah, as you can guess? You get what you pay for.


    We Interrupt You With Amazon's Observant Customer of the Year

    "Hi, I noticed your anime DVD listing for 'DVD disc only' has a great price compared to the others. Is this from the platinum collection? Does it have the box, insert, and the little collectible art insert that came with it? I'm really excited to be buying this from you, so just let me know!"

    Shine on, special little star. SHINE ON. Also, stop dropping pianos on ponies.


    We Named the DOG Indy!

    Client: It needs more snakes.

    Seraph: Snakes? Why did it have to be snakes?...

    Client: Well at least they're not on a plane?

    Seraph:

    Client:



    Not Going to Help You

    Dear Client, I told you I'd begin work on your design on Monday. Emailing and messaging me every 30-60 minutes asking if I'm going to start yet will not make your design magically jump the queue. Just gets you blocked until Monday.



    What Scam? (long)

    So on the day I was leaving for vacation, I had a client ping me for an email design. "I need it like right now, I swear I'll send the deposit, and everything, and pay you today, I just really need it NOW."

    I explain a) I can do it, but I'm slammed for time b) I am not a coder, so he'll have to contact Company B to install it onto his script and c) He needs to tell me what context this email will be used in so I can match the template up.

    Should've been a 1-2 hour job, but I ended up working on it for about four hours, because he made several revisions. As I was sitting down to work, he messages me "Sending the deposit now, I'm logging into PayPal". Since I'm stressed and fritzed, I didn't go check. Yes, you can figure out what actually happened.

    He finally says he approves of the design, he's "not happy its as detailed as Site X's, but whatever." I explain that even though I've asked five times, he never told me what context this needs to be specifically for except "a flexible template that can be used for any sort of announcement". I did the best I could to make it look really nice, but be able to fit any type of content in it. I send him the final invoice, he says he's going to pay it aaaand.....nothing. I sat there for 20 minutes, waiting.

    When I asked what was going on, he says "I'm not paying you a cent until its installed and ready. So get on that." I point out the earlier conversation of I WONT BE DOING THAT. He flips, demands that I do so, and I refuse. I also then log in to PayPal, and notice no deposit. I'm upset, and bring it up to him. He ignores that, and gives me an "ultimatum".

    "Okay then, I'll find out what Company B charges to install these, and you WILL take out that amount from your invoice. I'm feeling very unappreciated as a client, so you will do this, or I'll take my business elsewhere."

    /eyetwitch /veinpop

    Seraph: "On the very bloody contrary. I will not be doing that, and you flat out lied to me when you said you were sending the deposit. I'm not sending the files ANYWHERE until you pay me, and guess what? In three hours, I'll be gone for over a week, so you'd better get the payment to me before then, or else you won't be getting it at all.

    As for taking your business elsewhere? Do that. Every time I have a project with you, all I ever hear is your bagging and whining and demanding discounts on top of discounts. Its not worth my time to sit here and take this sort of treatment from you. I'd actually feel MUCH better settling this one last project, and then never hearing from you again. I'm a professional design company, and you've treated me like anything but. I'm done with this."

    Client: "I'm not paying you then, too bad."

    He logs off, his partner logs on, apologizes to me for what is going on, but then tells me no they aren't paying, and then blocks me.

    So, eh, I'm out $50, but I got to set my IM status to "Scammed by <Client> and <Sitename!>", which has been getting a lot of attention. Especially from his advertisers.

    Best part? He made a new AIM account to try and talk me out of my status, but said "I'm not scamming you, I'm not going to pay you though. There is no scam."


    J.J. Abrams Would Be Proud

    Not sucky, but epically amusing.

    Client: Need a template done for a video placeholder page, should be very basic, and probably will only be an hour of work. Very low budget look, just give me the basics look, you know, solid colored background, internet friendly text, etc

    <mocks up, sends to client>

    Client: Good start, can we get a bit more detail? Looks too plain

    <fixes>

    Client: Getting there, needs some more detail

    <fixes again, over two hours now>

    Client: Hmmmm, can we get some more, you know, production value?

    <as a joke, adds a picture of the new Star Trek movie, and about ten lens flares all over the design>

    Client: PERFECT!! I love it, this is fantastic! Looks just like a movie, thank you so much!

    Seraph:
    By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

    "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

  • #2
    Quoth Seraph View Post
    Inquiry: Hi, I'm looking for a quote on a new site design. My website currently makes like $5k a month, but I want a better look so that hopefully I'll get more traffic and up my income.

    Seraph: Ok, well base price for that type of stuff starts at about $300.

    Inquiry: Thats way too high
    $5k/month and he can't drop $300 to make his site make him more money?

    Fool.

    Quoth Seraph View Post
    <as a joke, adds a picture of the new Star Trek movie, and about ten lens flares all over the design>

    Client: PERFECT!! I love it, this is fantastic! Looks just like a movie, thank you so much!
    *giggle*

    Sometimes you hate that you let that sort of thing out in the wild with your name attached, but if it makes the customer happy...

    ^-.-^
    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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    • #3
      The sad part is I read the title and first thought as a joke was "So lens flares all over the place?"

      Then I read the part in the thread...
      I AM the evil bastard!
      A+ Certified IT Technician

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      • #4
        Quoth Seraph View Post

        Client: "I'm not paying you then, too bad."

        He logs off, his partner logs on, apologizes to me for what is going on, but then tells me no they aren't paying, and then blocks me.

        So, eh, I'm out $50, but I got to set my IM status to "Scammed by <Client> and <Sitename!>", which has been getting a lot of attention. Especially from his advertisers.

        Best part? He made a new AIM account to try and talk me out of my status, but said "I'm not scamming you, I'm not going to pay you though. There is no scam."
        The gall of some people astounds me. What a douche.
        "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

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        • #5
          Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
          $5k/month and he can't drop $300 to make his site make him more money?

          Fool.

          *snip*

          ^-.-^
          Kinda makes me wonder just how accurate that "$5k/month" announcement was ...

          If it's legit, then he is, as you say, a fool.

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          • #6
            I'd probably request a five dollar website, but that's because I only get three hundred dollars a paycheck. For someone getting five thousand, three hundred is no hardship.
            Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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            • #7
              Quoth Seraph View Post
              Best part? He made a new AIM account to try and talk me out of my status, but said "I'm not scamming you, I'm not going to pay you though. There is no scam."
              Pro tip: Jedi mind tricks don't work through AIM.

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              • #8
                Quoth Pixilated View Post
                Kinda makes me wonder just how accurate that "$5k/month" announcement was ...

                If it's legit, then he is, as you say, a fool.
                I suspect he's kind of like those guys who like to pull out the huuuuuuuge wad of bills, flip through their 100's, 50's, and 20's, and then pull out a 5 to pay for a pack of gum. Sounds like it's just to show off just how much he has, and here he is "gracing" you with his business. But since he's doing this over the internet, he can't flash all those big shiny bills at Seraph, so he's got to go with "My site makes this huge amount of money per month, but I'm too cheap to pay you what your work is worth to make my income bigger."
                "Enough expository banter. It's time we fight like men. And ladies. And ladies who dress like men. For Gilgamesh...IT'S MORPHING TIME!"
                - Gilgamesh, Final Fantasy V

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                • #9
                  Quoth Gerrinson View Post
                  Pro tip: Jedi mind tricks don't work through AIM.
                  Hell, it didn't even work for Qui-Gon Jinn face to face and he's an actual Jedi.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                    $5k/month and he can't drop $300 to make his site make him more money?

                    Fool.
                    No. Liar.
                    They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Kogarashi View Post
                      I suspect he's kind of like those guys who like to pull out the huuuuuuuge wad of bills, flip through their 100's, 50's, and 20's, and then pull out a 5 to pay for a pack of gum.
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! I have people turn up to buy tickets at O-Dark:30 (just after I open in the morning) and try to pay with a £50 for a £4 fare! They always look at me funny when I tell them I can't change it, and that look always improves when I start shovelling bags of 10ps onto the counter if they insist they can't get change or use a debit card instead... They have no concept that yes, there's plenty of money in the station but no, it's all restricted & I can't even try to touch it to make their change.
                      This was one of those times where my mouth says "have a nice day" but my brain says "go step on a Lego". - RegisterAce
                      I can't make something magically appear to fulfill all your hopes and dreams. Believe me, if I could I'd be the first person I'd help. - Trixie

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                        $5k/month and he can't drop $300 to make his site make him more money?
                        Well how do you think he managed to keep all that money?
                        "I am quite confident that I do exist."
                        "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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                        • #13
                          Hahaha! So someone else has noticed Abrams' tendency to rely on lens flares in his movies!
                          PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Pixilated View Post
                            Kinda makes me wonder just how accurate that "$5k/month" announcement was ...

                            If it's legit, then he is, as you say, a fool.
                            Its a legit price, if not too realistic. He makes that much, but I believe he has to pay out about 50-60% of what he earns in commission rates. Even still, that leaves at least $2k or so a month, and $300 isn't that bad for a really awesome web design that'd be sure to increase his customer base. It is idiotic of him, and I have a feeling that he'll be coming back later on.

                            Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
                            Hahaha! So someone else has noticed Abrams' tendency to rely on lens flares in his movies!
                            Can you imagine if it'd been in 3d? The corneal surgery the audience would've required!...
                            By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.

                            "What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Seraph View Post
                              Can you imagine if it'd been in 3d? The corneal surgery the audience would've required!...
                              Found it! I knew I tweeted about this...
                              PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

                              There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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