Guinness Man can suck it. (very very long. Language!)

[Pixilated]

I'm sorry you had such an awful evening, Lizard Queen. I've worked as a foody myself and there's always the one jackass (or, in your case, a whole herd of them) that just love to watch the employees have to knuckle under to whatever abuse they choose to dish out. Kudos to your manager for finally getting nicely abrupt and honest with the guy.

I hate places that make the servers cover dine-and-dash patrons. It's not like the servers can stand there and stare at the tables; they have to be back and forth, here and there, but somehow it's still their fault.

[taxguykarl]

I think you're onto something mooncat.

Option 3: He wanted to take his drink outside, in some cities (like Chicago) walking with an open booze container is illegal.

[Sapphire Silk]

What was the conference about? How to be an asshole? Sounds like they've got it nailed.

And seriously, who prefers Guinness in a can over on tap??

And, totally, Guinness in a can? is that really a big deal??? huh.

Even a non-seasoned beer drinker as myself can tell the difference.

Draft is really much better, IMHO.

[VComps]

I think you're onto something mooncat.

Option 3: He wanted to take his drink outside, in some cities (like Chicago) walking with an open booze container is illegal.

There's also an option 4: he is one of those people who are convinced that bars are all swindlers who water down their drinks. Can't water down a can! Genius! I've beaten the system!

[Jay 2K Winger]

Even a non-seasoned beer drinker as myself can tell the difference.

Draft is really much better, IMHO.

As I understand it, the beer connoisseur's preference for the source of the beer goes:

Draft > Bottle > Can

[Victory Sabre]

As I understand it, the beer connoisseur's preference for the source of the beer goes:

Draft > Bottle > Can

Yes, for the most part. There was one beer that was much better in a bottle then out of the tap - Alaskan Amber ale. Way better in the bottle.

[dalesys]

Draft > Bottle > Can > Horse > Cat

You left off a few grades.

[I am the Lizard Queen!!]

I have no idea what this guy was planning with his sacred can of Guinness but as far as I'm concerned he can cram it up his ass.
I'm just so bitter you guys. I really didn't know people were such miserable ass-holes.

[Jester]

Allow me to weigh in. Oh PLEASE, allow me.

GM: I think you can make an exception.

I know you are wrong.

GM: You can make an exception.

You can blow a donkey.

GMo you have any idea how much our group is spending on this conference???

The more important question is, Do I care?

GM: I KNOW you can make an exception.

And I KNOW that Keira Knightley is desperately in love with me. Clearly we are both delusional.

GM:You are being strict, just to be an ass-hole, aren't you?

No, we're being strict because it's our job. Being an asshole to you is just a bonus.

GM: So all the money we have spent in this hotel all week means nothing to you?

Not nearly as much as all the tabs you didn't pay.

GM: I. Want. A. Can. Of. Guinness.

I. Want. A. Blow. Job. From. Coté. de. Pablo. Looks like we're both gonna be disappointed.

No, unfortunately we had to put through most of them as paid with cash which means it comes out of our tips. M did void a few of them so we didn't lose ALL our tip money

That's bullshit. Yes, I know, sometimes you have to suck it up and pay walkouts, I get that. But your manager should have stood up for the two of you to his/her superiors and said, "Look, here's what happened." It was an extraordinary situation you two had to deal with, and normal rules should not apply. And your manager should have said as much.

Is the conference there another day? I'm thinking prepay and a willingness to tell every person WHY when they question it.

"Will that be cash or did you want to run a tab? A tab? Sure, I'll just need your credit card, please." No exceptions. Pretty much standard operating procedure in most places when they have big events or get crushed like that.

Also, if I remember correctly, Jester has something in his sig about not pissing off bartenders. I think that also applies to bar staff.

That was my old sig, which I had for many years. It said, "Bartenders are gods. Do not anger the gods. Tip well." Or something very close to that. Though my new sig is pretty spiffy, I think. Saw it on a sign at one of our local watering holes down here. Thought it was pretty appropriate, and definitely apropos for this thread.

And seriously, who prefers Guinness in a can over on tap??

Douchebags with less taste than even those who would date Lindsay Lohan, those who think Paris Hilton is in some way "hot," or those who enjoy the music of Justin Bieber.

And, totally, Guinness in a can? is that really a big deal??? huh.

Yes, it is that big a deal. One should always drink Guinness on draft!

Seriously, the only way I drink Guinness from a can is if I am doing Irish car bombs. That's it.

Y'know, thinking about it, I bet Guinness Man demanded a can of beer for one of two reasons (or maybe both):

1) He had just gotten kicked out of the other bar for being an asshole, so he wasn't getting anything to drink there.
2) He wanted to prove what a Big Manly Man he was by demanding service at a place that was closed.

3. He's just a raging, little dicked, pinheaded, moronic, asshole fucktard.

Option 3: He wanted to take his drink outside, in some cities (like Chicago) walking with an open booze container is illegal.

In most American cities, actually. There are very few where this is NOT the case. I can think of about half a dozen, total.

As I understand it, the beer connoisseur's preference for the source of the beer goes:

Draft > Bottle > Can

Not so sure about that. In most cases, that is correct, but most people I know would prefer the Guinness in a can to that in a bottle. The bottled stuff is just so wrong on so many levels, it's not even funny. I listed above the one reason I would drink Guinness from a can. There are no reasons to drink it from a bottle.

Another exception to the above rule is a lot of microbreweries are canning their beer, and canning technology has come to the point where there is no difference, and some canned microbrews are actually superior to their bottled cousins. Of course, the major breweries haven't really bothered with this technology, which is why canned Corona still tastes like utter shit. Hell, when faced with an option of canned Corona, I would rather drink canned Miller Lite. Yes, *I* just said that.

[EricKei]

I really didn't know people were such miserable ass-holes.

Sadly, that is one of the things one learns and learns quickly, working anywhere. Don't let it get you down.

Besides, we're always here to listen!

I am glad you guys got to make them pay up front, though.

[Jester]

Lizard Queen, I've been in the food service industry longer than I care to admit (since 1986, actually), and I have found that there are two solid, fast rules that you can absolutely count on.

1. There are always going to be people who are complete assholes.

2. You can never, ever, EVER take their shit personally.

Once you accept those two rules, the job gets much, much less stressful mentally and emotionally.

[wolfie]

Not so sure about that. In most cases, that is correct, but most people I know would prefer the Guinness in a can to that in a bottle. The bottled stuff is just so wrong on so many levels, it's not even funny. I listed above the one reason I would drink Guinness from a can. There are no reasons to drink it from a bottle.

Probably because they can stick the "widget" into the can before putting the top on, but there's no way they can stuff it down the neck of a bottle - the can will produce a "head" closer to that produced by the draft. Also, Guinness bottles are green. There's a reason brown is the standard colour for beer bottles - unlike green and clear, it blocks certain wavelengths of light that produce instant spoilage.

[Jester]

Actually, Guinness bottles are dark brown to black. Just saying. You're absolutely right on the widgets, though. Guinness is one of the only beers where the can is closer to the draft than the bottle is.

[Syriilord]

M: That's interesting, because half your group walked out on their tabs earlier and we really can't afford to lose any more money to you guys tonight.
GM: I. Want. A, Can. Of. Guinness.

How it should go
M: Well, I want those tabs paid. Arrange that, and I'll have that Guinness out so fast, it'll have a Doppler effect
GM: *splutters* That's not my fault.
M:: No, it isn't. But considering how much your group currently owes us, we're refusing to serve any of you until the slate is cleaned

EXUNT GUINNESS MAN, STAGE LEFT

There. I fixed it for ya. I can pretty much guarantee that would shut him down pretty fast. Either that, or you'd get paid for those tabs. It's a win-win.

[pzychobitch]

What was the conference about? How to be an asshole? Sounds like they've got it nailed.

And seriously, who prefers Guinness in a can over on tap??

An asshole, apparently.