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  • The Magic Backup (long backstory)

    So sometime last year we set up and installed a Win2k3 server and VPN router for a company. The server wasn't really anything special, just a terminal server for the VPN endpoints to log in to and do their business, plus a tape drive to backup all their crap. My boss set the whole thing up, and as always sets himself as a recipient for the backup log email (IMO kind of stupid as they dont pay any extra). He tells them he'll keep an eye on it and that they don't have to worry.

    Fast forward to a month or two ago. The backup hasn't been performed for several months due to some problem with the tape drive and/or tape. Mr. Manager didn't notice and the customer didn't bother reading the backup log emails since they thought he was. So it is decided that all the technicians (all three of us!) will receive the backup logs for all the servers we have set up. This is where I get involved.

    The tape drive on the aforementioned server asks to be cleaned every time a backup is done, but the cleaning light is off. I get the to clean it several times in a row and it is still acting up. I also upgrade the firmware of the drive, as that has fixed this problem in the past. The warnings go away - or so I thought.

    A few weeks after the firmware upgrade the error messages start popping up again. I phone HP to get it replaced under warranty, and they have me jump through a bunch of hoops before sending out the tape drive. Turns out Mr. Manager had told them to only clean the tape when the cleaning light came on, but according to HP you must clean it after every 5 backups regardless of the cleaning light. No big deal, right?

    Wrong. The customer is quite agitated because the tape drive 'has never worked properly' and if they lost any of their data it would be an incalculable loss. They don't want to have to clean it after every five backups because that is SUCH a hassle and is not what they were sold. They want to return the tape drive (which they have had for the better part of a year!) for a full refund. Oh, they also want a backup solution where they don't have to do anything (even change tapes). I wanted to offer to go on-site and change the tape for them every day for $100/h (w/ minimum 1 hours pay), but my coworker said that was probably a bad idea.
    Last edited by clowninasack; 05-27-2008, 08:26 PM.

  • #2
    We, too, have a tape drive set-up. We work it into the schedule to clean it out every 5-7 days. Not hard to do. We have had issues with it only because I was told that we need new tapes every 6 months, and apparently they cost a great deal. Yeah well cuz they cost so much they don't get replaced every 6 months, more like every 9 months. Poor tech support...everytime I have to call about the tapes not ejecting & the clean light being on... I have started requesting new tapes every 4 months and hoping I get them by 6 months.
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    • #3
      Well, the solution is to sell them on a tape room, complete with robotic librarian to remove and install tapes in the backup drive. Sure, it will run them a few hundered thousand dollars, not including upkeep costs, but it will keep them at the minimum needed work to run it.
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      • #4
        What is it with people and refunds? If you use the product successfully for over a month, you've got your money's worth. The warranty covers anything else, but don't expect a refund because you're a moron.
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        • #5
          Chant with me:

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          If it makes sense, it's not allowed.
          If it makes sense, it's not allowed.
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          • #6
            Oh but that's so easy to resolve! Just get them a DVD burner, and put a DVD+RW in there, have it aggregate a backup change daily and wipe out the DVD+RW every weekend and start affresh!!! it's the safest solution ever!
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            • #7
              Until their building mysteriously burns down...

              (Oh, they're backing up about 30GB of data BTW)

              Half the time they leave important documents open anyway, which the backup software DOESN'T BACK UP!

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              • #8
                BackupExec for the win!

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                • #9
                  Hmmm I had a lossy file compression program with up to %100 compression ratio, but I missplaced it
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                  • #10
                    could it be "del *.*"?
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                    • #11
                      Maybe I'll just set their backup device to '/dev/null'.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth clowninasack View Post
                        Maybe I'll just set their backup device to '/dev/null'.
                        Man, these new backups are finishing in seconds!!!!!


                        Eric the Grey
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                        • #13
                          what about external hard drives... wouldn't those work with minimal maintainence?
                          or even off-site back-ups?
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                          • #14
                            i think the best backup in this case asummign their on windows is format C: -y

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                            • #15
                              External HDDs are good to protect against normal software failure and machine-hdd failure but they're not good for even contained catastrophes... just think about this: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/A-Bit-More-Dire.aspx
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