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  • Owning a Unix Administrator

    So, I work in the data center for a chain of book stores, on the night shift. Because the retail market is...well...volatile right now, we've lost some of our best administrators, leaving others with questionable skills to take their place.

    Background in place, allow me to tell you the story of how I owned a Unix Admin the other night.

    We had called an application support person to explain that a job was running far too long on a server, hereafter referred to as "UNIX01". Application support suggested that we reboot the entire server. As required, we called the Unix Admin to ensure this was ok with them, and they agreed.

    So, off Bobsentme goes with documentation in hand, to login to the server, shut everything down properly, reboot, and bring it all back up. This is no easy task on any server, but "UNIX01" is known to give many people in the data center problems (particular when not all the steps are followed correctly). Luckily, Bobsentme is a smart guy, and was able to run through the instructions without a problem.

    As requested by the Unix Administrator, I called them back once the system was up and running as a courtesy.
    The following conversation ensued:

    Admin: "You couldn't have brought it down that fast. I just checked, everything is still running!!!"
    Me: "I did, and everything is running because the system is back up."
    Admin: "Well, how do I know you shut the system down?"

    At this point, I am beyond annoyed with this admin, and actually getting angry. Not only has this person questioned my abilities, but is now calling me liar. So I take a deep breath and continue.

    Me: "Type u...p...t...i...m...e...at the prompt."
    Admin: "What's this command do?"

    My brain disengaged. It let my mouth run before I could stop it, causing me to reply:

    Me: "Shows I'm better than you."

    The rest of the call was downhill from there, but at least now this Unix Admin knows I'm not just some person manning the phones in the data center.
    "Chaos in the midst of chaos isn't funny, but chaos in the midst of order is." - Steve Martin

  • #2
    Quoth Bobsentme View Post
    Me: "Type u...p...t...i...m...e...at the prompt."
    Admin: "What's this command do?"
    Any UNIX administrator who doesn't know this command needs to have all access privileges revoked retroactively. This is one of the most basic commands you can possibly learn.

    I feel pity for you. If that person is administering your machines, you're in grave trouble there.

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    • #3
      Amazing

      Tell any real UNIX freak about an OS you use that is not UNIX and the first words out of their mouth will be "Well, my uptime has been ..... and still running.".

      What happen if someone tells this idiot to type in "rm -s *.*" ?

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      • #4
        Quoth earl colby pottinger View Post
        What happen if someone tells this idiot to type in "rm -s *.*" ?
        Sounds similar to the DOS command "deltree *.*" Am I right?

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        • #5
          I did that to someone one time... *coughs lightly* He said I had stolen his homework even though mine had been turned in a couple days earlier by my Mom since I was home sick with mono.

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          • #6
            Quoth earl colby pottinger View Post
            Tell any real UNIX freak about an OS you use that is not UNIX and the first words out of their mouth will be "Well, my uptime has been ..... and still running.".

            What happen if someone tells this idiot to type in "rm -s *.*" ?
            If ya want to be more creative have them type "mv /root /dev/null/".

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            • #7
              read my signature.
              Otaku

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              • #8
                Hopefully that data is backup somewhere where the UNIX admin cat get to it. I see nothing good happening here.

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                • #9
                  sometimes you'd think these "admins" would know who Mr. Google. is... Heck, I found these within just a few seconds...

                  a nice rm -rf story

                  Basic unix commands

                  Wikipedia's version

                  O_o

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                  • #10
                    chmod 000

                    All the data is still there. They know it is still there. But anyone who would use the command probably can't get around it.
                    The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                    "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                    Hoc spatio locantur.

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                    • #11
                      And there was the person who ran 'chmod -R 777 /' but couldn't figure out why they couldn't log into their system. They honestly thought that would give them complete access.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth dendawg View Post
                        Sounds similar to the DOS command "deltree *.*" Am I right?
                        Close enough!
                        I AM the evil bastard!
                        A+ Certified IT Technician

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                        • #13
                          Quoth LionMan View Post
                          And there was the person who ran 'chmod -R 777 /' but couldn't figure out why they couldn't log into their system. They honestly thought that would give them complete access.
                          Ooh, I know that one!

                          It cleared the setuid and setgid flags! Those are required for login processes to work.

                          Do I get a cookie?

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                          • #14
                            I love the rm command -- I use it all the time over using a FTP program to delete folders.

                            FTP folder takes 1-10 minutes, rm takes 0.002 seconds (according to the logs lol). But "uptime"? I, having never heard it as I've had no need for it, would assume it displays the computer's uptime.

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                            • #15
                              Yep. Among other things.

                              Code:
                              $ ssh -C root@192.168.239.23
                              root@192.168.239.23's password: 
                              Last login: Fri Dec  5 00:48:07 2008 from 192.168.239.42
                              dolphin ~ # uptime
                               04:43:43 up 80 days, 17:04,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
                              dolphin ~ # logout
                              Connection to 192.168.239.23 closed.
                              $

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