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    A therapist friend of mine has an issue with her email program. I'm well aware that she could have confidential info (patient stuffs) saved in there. To diagnose the problem I don't necessarily need to sit down in front of her computer, but I do need to know some basic info. What version of what program, was she doing anything else when the problem happens, any errors, etc. I do not need to know anything about the contents of the mailbox, as it's clear that is irrelevant.

    "It's Eudora on a Mac."

    ...yes, I know you use Eudora on a Mac. That doesn't tell me about the actual problem.

    "I don't want people looking at my emails."

    I didn't say I would need to read your emails (you know I would never do that anyway). I need to know what's wrong.

    "It doesn't work."

    What doesn't work?

    "I don't want people reading my emails."

    I understand you could have confidential stuff on there. I need to know what's wrong so I can determine if it is fixable by a verbal walkthrough, or if I have to make a house call.

    "Can't you fix it without me telling you that stuff?" (translation: I have no idea what you are asking, but I'm too paranoid to let you sit down at my computer to get what you need)

    Great googly moogly. If you don't want anyone else using your computer, how come you've let other "techs" try to fix this problem (only result was things got screwed up more)?

    I know you want me to do "strategic volunteering". My landlord will not let me apply volunteer hours toward the rent and I do have other expenses and need to eat. So far this society has not hit on a truly workable bartering economy, so I need to charge cash money for anything even remotely complex. It's a hell of a lot less than what "the other guy" (who from what I can see got his A+ from a cereal box) charges and I happen to know you are Not Poor. You're not "saving money" by paying the cheap guy to do re-fixes many times.

    Last edited by Dreamstalker; 05-23-2009, 05:13 AM.
    "I am quite confident that I do exist."
    "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

  • #2
    Quoth Dreamstalker View Post
    A therapist friend of mine has an issue.
    Editted to reveal the true problem.

    Send her several emails. Maybe she'll agree that you could look at those emails to see what the problem is, assuming you need to look at any of the emails.
    "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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    • #3
      The fact that she's let other techs mess with it before, and now is super paranoid about you tells me one of two things. One, the other tech did something horrible, read her emails, found out confidential info, something. Or two, someone you know well is her patient, unlike the other techs, and she fears you may stumble on to the fact that this person is being treated by her. Or maybe she's secretly in love with you and has been emailing her BFF about it.

      Anyway, that has got to be super difficult for you, all you want to do is fix the darn problem! Best of luck.
      "You mean you don’t have the one piece of information you actually need? Well, stick your grubby paws in the crayon box, yank one out and colour me Fucking Shocked Fuchsia." - Gravekeeper

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      • #4
        Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
        Editted to reveal the true problem.
        True dat. She's been suggesting I apply to companies that are either bankrupt, soon to be bankrupt, or known to be shedding jobs faster than a snakeskin. The most infamous of such was when she suggested I apply to Circuit City when it was already common knowledge they were going under (I think the rationale for that one was that there wouldn't be a lot of competition....erm, yeah, but...)
        Send her several emails. Maybe she'll agree that you could look at those emails to see what the problem is, assuming you need to look at any of the emails.
        There are a few emails from her to me that tell me there is a problem, but it seems too trivial for what she actually claims is happening (the only problem I can see in the emails is that the quoting function is either severely borked or she just has no idea how to do it).

        I was going to suggest that she encrypt her mailbox, but that might cause her head to asplodey. She is one of those users whose mantra is "I just want it to WORK why are you asking me about stuff?"

        Her vaguely condescending attitude toward my justification for charging for my services doesn't help...I will work with clients if they're having severe financial problems and family as well as a few select friends get help for free, but that doesn't mean I give my services away all the time.
        Quoth Megg View Post
        Or maybe she's secretly in love with you and has been emailing her BFF about it.
        O_o Now that's creepy. The most likely scenario is that she seems to think that my financial situation means that I should be happy to provide services for free ("but it looks good on your resume"...gee, does a trashed credit rating due to defaulting on all my bills look good too?), which I fail to see the logic behind.
        Last edited by Dreamstalker; 06-07-2009, 04:45 AM.
        "I am quite confident that I do exist."
        "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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        • #5
          "Her vaguely condescending attitude toward my justification for charging for my services doesn't help"

          Let me guess, "You want me to pay you for your little hobby?" Something like that?

          Start forgetting how to speak English when she asks you for computer help, or alternatively, start asking her what your sudden desire to wrap naked Barbie dolls in bacon means.

          When she tells you her therapist rates tell her, in the smuggest way you can, "Oh, you want me to pay you for your little hobby?"

          She won't get it, but it'll be fun.
          I have a map of the world. It's actual size.

          -- Steven Wright

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          • #6
            Quoth TonyDonuts View Post
            Let me guess, "You want me to pay you for your little hobby?" Something like that?
            Something like that, yeah. Just because I quit a job where my safety was in question doesn't mean what I do has devolved to the level of "hobby".
            "I am quite confident that I do exist."
            "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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            • #7
              Does SHE work for free? I doubt it VERY much, knowing what little I do of the U.S. healthcare system.
              Tell her you'll just charge the same rate as she works for & THEN see the "cat butt face" she shows!

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              • #8
                Do what I do with certain relatives. That is, I tell them I'll work on their computer for $50 per hour...with a minimum of 3 hours. Cuts down on the bullshit calls nicely
                Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. --Enzo Ferrari

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                • #9
                  I've done that with an uncle...his computer is a POS that can't even run XP without choking. Once he saw I was serious the BS calls stopped. Also did that with The Twit...it actually worked quite well in getting her to go away for good

                  I figure I can justify my matching her hourly rate ("normal" rate, travel time, id10t tax, "what the HELL did you do?!" tax, vagueness tax, etc). If needed I can probably pull sufficiently confusing "techy acronyms" out of my ass to where she won't even ask me to explain.
                  "I am quite confident that I do exist."
                  "Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up." The Doctor

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                  • #10
                    Stick to your guns.. She uses wealth and ignorance as weapons.. your only defense is common sense and willpower.
                    Fixing problems... one broken customer at a time.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth protege View Post
                      Do what I do with certain relatives. That is, I tell them I'll work on their computer for $50 per hour...with a minimum of 3 hours. Cuts down on the bullshit calls nicely
                      I remember a tale from way back in the where in a university dorm there was one guy who was proficient with computers. However, everyone knew it, and they all came to him to install new graphics cards or sort out problems.

                      Remember that this is over a decade ago for the pricing. He couldn't get any of his own work done, so he put a notice on his door.

                      "Computer work, $10 per item installed. $10 refunded if I can't find the solution in the manual that comes with the product."

                      Worked a treat, and he got to help those who had genuine problems instead of being needy.

                      Rapscallion

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