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  • I Think He Got His Money's Worth

    I know it's annoying when you buy a new computer and some of the software you had doesn't work any more.

    For instance I handled a call today from a fellow who just bought a new computer with USB ports and found out the software he bought from us around 1985 doesn't work well with USB ports.

    Up until today he had been using some third party program to make his setup work but that program didn't work on his new computer.

    Of course he felt it was our responsibility to hold his hand and find a way to make it work again.

    I disabused him of that notion and suggested he buy software that was designed to work with USB ports and that newfangled OS, known as Windows.

    No dice. He didn't need anything that fancy.

    No skin off my nose. Not everyone feels an update is worth the purchase price; that's fair enough in a free market economy. So I told him I understood and was getting ready to say my good-byes.

    And get, "So you're just going to leave it like that? You're not going to help me if I don't buy something I don't need?"

    Whoa there! I think we need to clarify a few things here:

    1. By offering to sell you something that will get you up and running, I AM attempting to help you.

    2. If you are dead in the water *without* the new version and won't be dead in the water *with* the new version, I wouldn't call it "something [you] don't need."

    Gimme a break.

    So I told him I was trying to help him and if I didn't think he needed the new version I wouldn't have mentioned it to him.

    Then I got the ever dreaded, "Well it's worked fine for me for over 20 years. I don't see why you can't fix this. You must be getting a lot of calls about this!"

    Sigh. I guess it's time for Round 2 of things we need to clarify:

    3. If a peice of software has worked fine for you for 20 years, then you should consider yourself pretty gosh darn lucky. That's very, um, unusual.

    4. Nope. You're the only one to ever call about this. Our other customers just aren't as *dedicated* to not buying things from us as you are. I guess they must be some kind of weirdos.

    I responded to that by assuring him he was the only one to call about that and that most of our customers were running our software on Windows.

    He mutter something unintelligible and sarcastically thanked me for "at least answering the phone."

    And time for Round 3:

    5. If it were *normal* for our customers to wait over twenty years between updates, my answering the phone wouldn't have happened at all. So don't thank me, thank our other customers who have kept us in business these past 20+ years by buying things.

    I respond to sarcasm by cheerfully letting it go over my head. I warmly told him "You're very welcome." And sincerely wished him a good afternoon.
    The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

    The stupid is strong with this one.

  • #2
    My 20 year old software (not including games) is still working fine with Vista, thank you very much. That would be Treeview (DOS) and Print Shop (Win 3.1). Plus I have several 8-10 year old programs that still work fine. But when something stops working to my satisfaction, a new version is soon in hand.
    "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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    • #3
      Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
      My 20 year old software (not including games) is still working fine with Vista, thank you very much. That would be Treeview (DOS) and Print Shop (Win 3.1). Plus I have several 8-10 year old programs that still work fine. But when something stops working to my satisfaction, a new version is soon in hand.
      I assure you that using very old software didn't make the guy sucky. Calling us to complain and demand that we make it work for him because it suddenly stopped working made him sucky. I assume you would never call a manufacturer and do that.

      We are a business, after all. We need the profit so we can invest it into improving the product enough to attract new customers and give old customers an incentive to want to update. If we don't do that, we are gone.

      This guy ticked me off because of his demanding attitude. And he was obviously willing to buy new computers and new hardware devices. All of which are much more expensive than our product and made by much larger companies.

      And yet it was *our* job to support his decision to spend money with everyone *but* us?

      Fuck that. He can go to online forums like everyone else and figure it out for himself. After I ended the conversation I checked and found a few potential answers he could try.

      If he hadn't been such an entitled jackass about it I might have pointed him in the right direction.
      Last edited by Dips; 08-05-2009, 01:23 PM.
      The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

      The stupid is strong with this one.

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      • #4
        Well, if people are desperate to keep old progs running -- I only care about this for games, I still have the "Gold Box" AD&D games, for Chrissakes -- there are two options that work very nicely on modern systems:

        - DOSBox

        - Windows 7 with Virtual XP (a fully-licensed copy of XP Pro is included with a purchase of 7, you just need to download it and the VM); just keep in mind that most, but not all, modern CPU's support it.
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        • #5
          OTOH, there are many very old computers out there still in operation solely because there's one or two programs that haven't been supported in 20+ years but are still needed. I've seen a few of them.

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          • #6
            Quoth EricKei View Post
            I still have the "Gold Box" AD&D games, for Chrissakes.
            I still have those game too, the whole series. They are among my all time favorites. They were fun to hack. A friend played one of them with a "broken sword" that did +120 damage. I also figured out how to get behind the scenes, areas the player wasn't allowed to go. There was nothing there, but it was fun to do.

            And they will run under Vista with DosBox, although I haven't bothered to get the sound working.
            Last edited by Ironclad Alibi; 08-06-2009, 03:57 PM. Reason: Added DosBox comment
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            • #7
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              • #8
                analogy: can't use leaded gas with new cars

                analogy works, no?
                To err is human, to blame someone else shows good management skills.

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                • #9
                  20 year old programs need 20 year old computers to run on. And it's actually a good thing that there are competent techs who can keep them running that long. I'm not quite at that mark, but i still fiddle with my 10 year old PC and I've been putting off upgrading my 8 year old PC (which I use for gaming incedently) because I keep managing to get a little extra juice out of it...

                  Having said that, for anything that needs a version of MS-DOS, I find that DOSBox is easier to use than the actual product. I certainly spend less time frustrated on getting things to run then I did back when I had the floppies in front of me, the manual in hand and a pile of 5.25" bootdisks. And as for compatibility... well the makers of DOSBox surpassed my wildest expectations about 5 versions ago
                  Last edited by MrSmiley; 08-08-2009, 09:23 AM.
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