Ethernet cable...

[drunkenwildmage]

Oh, one other question: Is the color order as inserted looking down on the clip-side of the RJ-45, or the connector side?

Connector side.. with clip-side down.

[Geek King]

Oh, one other question: Is the color order as inserted looking down on the clip-side of the RJ-45, or the connector side?

[Geek King]

Good to know all. That's the problem with being self-taught on a lot of this stuff. You miss out on all that standerdization stuff.

I'll make a note of it for the next time I make cables.

I still kinda question the need for it (yes, I'm perfectly aware of RF issues and signal interferance over a distance of cable), since the cable should already be twisted the whole way through as part of manufaturing, but that's more of a curiosity. If that's the standard order of colors, then that's what needs to be done.


Aside: The solid color wire cable is an older cable. I'm not sure where it came from, as it was a repair job--it needed a new jack on one end. It is working just fine so far, so I'm not sure why it has non-standard coloration. Made before the standard, maybe?

[csquared]

Is that some kind of standard I haven't been made aware of? I generally just make sure all the colors are in the same order at either end (unless making a crossover cable, or other specialty cable). What do you do when those aren't the colors the company put in the cable? I have some that are all various solid colors. I'm at least fairly sure the electricity doesn't care about the color of the insulation...

That order insures RF shielding. That is also why you want to maintain the twist as close to the end of the jack. Keeps the signal strong and also keeps noise out.

If the wires are not those colors, I would wonder if the wire is cat3-6 certified.

[Bandit]

Is that some kind of standard I haven't been made aware of?

It's TIA/EIA 568B. There's also 568A where the green and the orange pairs are swapped.

I've made *far* too many of them. Even more fun to do with 2 pairs of latex gloves on and a clean-room suit.

B

[technical.angel]

I made a batch of my homemade chocolate peanutbutter fudge. SFX: <tempt> <tempt>

Don't like peanut butter and chocolate!! :: pouts and runs away again ::

[drunkenwildmage]

Is that some kind of standard I haven't been made aware of? I generally just make sure all the colors are in the same order at either end (unless making a crossover cable, or other specialty cable). What do you do when those aren't the colors the company put in the cable? I have some that are all various solid colors. I'm at least fairly sure the electricity doesn't care about the color of the insulation...

yah.it is....Something you got to remember is that.. if you do up a cable that doesn't follow the standards, and one of the ends goes bad , or they need to change the length of the cable, later on down the road, then some schmuck is going to have a heck of a time troubleshooting it

[Geek King]

Orange-white, orange; green-white, blue; blue-white, green; brown-white, brown!

Is that some kind of standard I haven't been made aware of? I generally just make sure all the colors are in the same order at either end (unless making a crossover cable, or other specialty cable). What do you do when those aren't the colors the company put in the cable? I have some that are all various solid colors. I'm at least fairly sure the electricity doesn't care about the color of the insulation...

IS TOO!!!

:: runs off, crying ::

Jenni, the techie who cannot make a cable to save her life.

Aw, come on TA. You just need a little practice. I have huge hands--big enough that the original XBox controller fit nicely (I miss it ). If I can get it to work, I'm sure you can. You just have to learn from your mistakes (I made plenty of crappy cables myself before getting it down), and keep trying. Now come on back. I made a batch of my homemade chocolate peanutbutter fudge. SFX: <tempt> <tempt>

[wraiths_crono]

Heh my boss said the installer may have gotten confused on the wording in the install ticket. HAH I read it makes perfect sense to me, and yeah spent some time retracing a new line to the new server, cus I couldn't take the customers new server down to fix the old one, that would have made new problems.

[drunkenwildmage]

I can get the wires in order, I just CANNOT get the sheaf cut right. It's either cut so the plastic doesn't get into the end so it can crimp, or I don't have enough room to feed in the wires. I tired for an hour to get a cable to test out. I failed, and forever more depend on the server admin to make me cables.

What I normally do, is strip the cable so the wires are a little long, and then when I get the wires the way I want them, I'll take a pair of standard wire cutters, and cut off the excise wires so they fit in the plug.. That seems to be what I have the best luck with, but then again.. I learned how to make cables by reading the instructions that came with my crimper kit thingie. Learned on fly while working at one of our remote sites.. Had learn that way with crimping F connectors on Coax also.. fun times!!

[TheSHAD0W]

I can get the wires in order, I just CANNOT get the sheaf cut right. It's either cut so the plastic doesn't get into the end so it can crimp, or I don't have enough room to feed in the wires.

The trick is that you can cut the wires a bit longer, then massage and stretch the outer insulation until it gets into the connector. Having a good crimping tool is important too, I recommend getting one that surrounds the plug so you can maintain pressure on the wire while you crimp.

[crashhelmet]

this is what i use at work and i luffs it!!

The video on that site makes me want to

He does a few things that I would've NEVER thought of doing, let alone thought were possible.

I have the urge to go home and make a crapload of unneeded cable after work

CH

[crashhelmet]

Don't feel bad Jenni. I had problems with it too, in the beginning. I ended up buying a spool of cat 5 thread and a bunch of connectors to practice. I could probably do it blindfolded now

CH

[xx_wolfie_xx]

this is what i use at work and i luffs it!!

[TheRabbi]

Aww. It does take a bit of skill, to begin with. But most crimpers also have a cutting blade and a guide on them. Better to cut more plastic off and have to cut the wires shorter by a little bit a few times until it is the right length than the other way around, too.