I stand alone...twilight-the book please tell me I'm not alone! (could have spoilers)

[Binky]

actually. I never thought of how/why these books actually made it to print?

I once toyed with the idea of writing my own books (spose I still do) and went to a full on writers conference a while back. From what they were saying it takes a good 2-3 years to write a good book, writing and re-writing it and getting it proof read and all that stuff.

How on earth did this book get through all that and still make it to publishing? did she write it all in one night and decide, hell I like it! I'll do it alone????

Either way, yeah I think it's craptacular and I'm not even sure I can be bothered to pick it back up to finish it. And while I think kids should be reading something with ALOT more substance, better they read than go out kicking puppies am I right?

[Evil Queen]

I'm telling ya, the book had to be self published and self marketed. That's the only way it could have been done.

In the mean time, I'd like to meet the literary Agent Mrs. Meyers used. So I an yell at them.

My big break came in the form of an assistant at Writers House named Genevieve.

Now we know who to avoid and yell at.

Question! The apple on the cover; is that important? WTF?

[Binky]

Question! The apple on the cover; is that important? WTF?

Forbidden fruit?

[Evil Queen]

Oh man, that's . And lame. Very lame.

[Girly]

So, if kids were going out kicking puppies rather than playing on their computer, it would be OK cuz "At least they're going out into the fresh air!"? That's my take on Twilight.

Yes, because reading the Twilight books equates to kids going out and kicking puppies. Are you serious?

If my kids didn't want to read, but would read the Twilight books, I wouldn't care. I don't care that the characters are bland and not very believable. It's not going to hurt them, is it? Plus, they may like it, even though I didn't enjoy them very much. Who the hell am I to tell my kids what books they have to like, and what books they aren't allowed to like? These books were written as Young Adult for crying out loud, not Adult (sci) fiction, like her Host book, which is a completely different book, and much better, imo.

[LewisLegion]

Personally, I think its definately Mary Sue twaddle, just as I believe Eragon is Marky Sam twaddle cliche'd fanfiction that got published just because the kid's family had moolah. My opinions. Anyone is welcome to read them all they want and it don't turn my hairs none.

What drives ME batty is how everyone is gushing frantically over them like they're dipped in gold, like the author did something that is SO OMG ORIGINAL U HAVE 2 READ OR U'R AN UBERLUZER!!!11!!!

They're so not original. Teenagers and vampires have been done a TRILLION times. Hell, without even thinking, Lost Boys and Buffy the Vampire Slayer spring instantly to mind. It's vamps and teens with a 90210 flair. Yawn.

[Ljt09863]

so ive read only the first post in this topic. im not reading any further, because im on page 26, in the first book. i don't want to read anything that may spoil what i read.

so, when im done with the book, ill come back on here and give my full opinion.

but as of right now, 26 pages in, im not impressed. Harry Potter books, i absolutely love, and they grabbed me from the start.

this book, it isn't bad enough for me to stop reading, but i am curious to see how it goes.

[Shards]

*MOD EDIT - Please edit quotes.
If my kids didn't want to read, but would read the Twilight books, I wouldn't care. I don't care that the characters are bland and not very believable. It's not going to hurt them, is it? Plus, they may like it, even though I didn't enjoy them very much. Who the hell am I to tell my kids what books they have to like, and what books they aren't allowed to like?

We're not saying they shouldn't be read, simply that they're overrated to such a degree that it is annoying.

We're giving an opinion we were asked for, not yelling 'burn all copies of the book'.

Can you honestly say there aren't books you believe your kids would learn better habits from or have a more pleasurable experience reading? Simply stating this among friend who were asking for your opinion does not in fact entail telling people what they can and cannot read.

[Binky]

Kyle: "KICK THE BABY!"
Ike: "no kick the baby"
Kyle: "kick the baby!" *kicks Ike!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5Sx5...eature=related
sorry but I couldn't resist. All this talk of kicking puppies and all.

An no I would never do it, but it just reminded me of this from south park

[Lace Neil Singer]

We're not saying they shouldn't be read, simply that they're overrated to such a degree that it is annoying.

We're giving an opinion we were asked for, not yelling 'burn all copies of the book'.

Can you honestly say there aren't books you believe your kids would learn better habits from or have a more pleasurable experience reading? Simply stating this among friend who were asking for your opinion does not in fact entail telling people what they can and cannot read.

What Shards said. Honestly Girly, if you are unable to accept that people have different opinions to you on this subject, then maybe it's best you withdraw from the topic. Not being nasty or anything, just that that are certain subjects that I personally can't discuss without getting into a lather, so I try and withdraw rather than turn the thread into a flame war that ends up getting locked.

Besides, my example was a similie, like telling someone they're eating like a bird. When we say that, we don't mean that they're actually eating worms and bread crusts. Maybe a better similie would be that Twilight is like Sunny Delight. Yes, it's marginally better than drinking endless fizzy drinks, but it's not really that healthy at all and kids would be better off drinking water or at the very least a sugar and additive free drink. ^^

[Crow The Robot]

A vegetarian vampire?? I baught the book for $1.50 at a salvation army store and I didn't get past the first two chapters. I was also not a big fan of HP though it was the fangirl/boys who basically implied that you are "Like OMG yer illiterate" if you didn't read HP, the books were written decently. Twilight though, yech. Oh and Raven, I'd buy your book too it sounds interesting.

[Evil Queen]

Do you know what the writing style for Twilight reminds me of? I was in a small used bookstore a couple weeks ago and picked up a book (no, I didn't buy it. I'm too smart for that) entitled "You Suck!"

How does it start?

"You killed me, you bitch! You suck!"

I know, wtf moment, right? The rest of the writing was horrible. I felt like hurting myself, yanking my poor eyeballs out of my sockets and feeding them to carrion birds.

[CaroPhoenix]

Now I have to pull out my little vampire clan book that I started to write way back in 10th grade (Sophomore year) in High School! (This was right around the time that I read at least Interview with the Vampire and maybe The Vampire Lestat. This was also before I knew about other RPGs besides D&D and that Vampire and Werewolf were out by White Wolf (or thereabouts).

Zandra was a "creature of the night" who was born way back when in Palmyra (tribute to Bertrice Small who wrote Beloved a fictional account about Zenobia, Queen of Palmyra). Zandra was actually born a werewolf. When her new husband tried to kill her shortly after their wedding, something went wrong and she didn't exactly die. She was found & turned into a vampire but because of her werewolf blood, she wasn't completely vamp. And she found that not a lot of things could hurt her.

She only created 2 vampire "children". Back in the 1600's she created Alessandro who is neither vamp nor werewolf but is immortal and incredibly strong. And who went insane with this immense power he was given and the fact Zandra left him.

Her second child was Graham. She created him at the end of the 1800's. He was complete vamp (because of her vamp/werewolf-isms, I figured there'd be some interesting combination of whomever she chose to turn).

The story started in present day when she awakes from a car crash. She knows her name is Davieleigh Jones (Okay, I'm a Monkees fan & Leigh was because I liked it) only because she opened her wallet and saw her driver's license.

Coincidentally, she ends up in Cornerton, which not only is home to Alessandro and his gang of ragamuffins, but also to Graham who has found a home with an ancient vamp named Merlin.

Okay ... Yes, I know this is really bad, but if Twilight is as bad as some of you say it is, I think I could win the Nobel Prize in Literature with my story!

What do y'all think?

[Girly]

What Shards said. Honestly Girly, if you are unable to accept that people have different opinions to you on this subject, then maybe it's best you withdraw from the topic. Not being nasty or anything, just that that are certain subjects that I personally can't discuss without getting into a lather, so I try and withdraw rather than turn the thread into a flame war that ends up getting locked.

Besides, my example was a similie, like telling someone they're eating like a bird. When we say that, we don't mean that they're actually eating worms and bread crusts. Maybe a better similie would be that Twilight is like Sunny Delight. Yes, it's marginally better than drinking endless fizzy drinks, but it's not really that healthy at all and kids would be better off drinking water or at the very least a sugar and additive free drink. ^^

I think I would be able to say the same to you, no? I have agreed the books aren't that good. I highly doubt that any of them will be winning a Pulitzer at any point in time.

My point is, however, that just because you think they suck, and kids should be reading ANYTHING instead of these books, someone, somewhere obviously likes them. You didn't like them? That's great. As a matter of fact, I think we actually agree they aren't the best things available, but I'm the one saying to let the kids read them if that's what they want to read. You're the one saying they should be reading anything other than these things they call books. God forbid someone actually LIKES the books... then what!

You are probably right though. We should agree to disagree, burn all the Twilight books so young adults (and some adults too) aren't exposed to the drivel, and make sure all vampire books published in the future meet your expectations, and approval to be published.

[Ree]

Whoah!
Calm the heck down people.

Use the report button and take it to PM.

We get enough of that from our customers. We don't need it here.

As for the back and forth on this, Girly is simply saying that the books may not be that great, but at least children are reading. She is entitled to that opinion, but as far as I can see, she has been told in no less that 3 posts that her opinion is wrong, then, when she has tried to defend that position, she has been accused of over-sensitivity and not being able to see another side.

Hello, pot? This is the kettle. Guess what?

So, if kids were going out kicking puppies rather than playing on their computer, it would be OK cuz "At least they're going out into the fresh air!"? That's my take on Twilight. I'd rather kids read decent books; and there are a lot of good children's and teen's books around;

I agree with LNS here.

Quite frankly, I'd rather see my friends reading Naruto books

Yes, because reading the Twilight books equates to kids going out and kicking puppies. Are you serious?

If my kids didn't want to read, but would read the Twilight books, I wouldn't care. I don't care that the characters are bland and not very believable. It's not going to hurt them, is it? Plus, they may like it, even though I didn't enjoy them very much. Who the hell am I to tell my kids what books they have to like, and what books they aren't allowed to like?