I Got Beat Up

[Rapscallion]

Thanks to everyone who wanted and did help. At this point, I think this thread's done its course until SIGE comes back.

Rapscallion

[Gravekeeper]

I think with SIGE, it was a cry for help, a cry that SIGE might not have honestly expected anyone to actually help.

I may have believed that initially and perhaps it was to begin with. But it spiraled into something else entirely. The only one I honestly have sympathy for now in this entire situation is the daughter. Who obviously has quite the maelstorm around her and is no where near old enough to understand or deal with it.

Though I will gladly commend the response of the CS forum regardless of how unfortunate things began to play out. If I had come into the thread much earlier I probably would have responded in kind. However, reading the whole start to finish has altered my opinion greatly.

[Reyneth]

Who the hell is going to help me now? Not my mom, not for ruining my precious brother's dreams by giving him a criminal record.

No, No, NO! YOU did not ruin anything. Your brother did by being such a jack@ss as to beat you up in the first place. That was what HE did. The fact that he may now be facing the consequences of his actions is NOT your responsibility.

You need to stop listening to your mom (hard as it is to actually do that) - she is TOXIC.

[draggar]

Wow. I just got in this thread and with every post I wanted to reply but whatever I would have said someone else said (plus what I would have said would have been irrelevant as this thread progressed).

IMO this is the most disturbing thread I've ever read.

Why post such stuff if a person doesn't want help of some kind?

Were we all supposed to just commiserate and say, "That just sucks," and then sit back and watch the shit unfold?

Ree, this is extremely harsh but it needed to be said. With all the advice being posted for SIGE to follow, even posing phone numbers for help, SIGE still didn't want to go along with it.

Today, 03:28 AM - Angry post attacking person from here who called the cops to help

Whoever called the police did the right thing.

I truly hope that SorryIsGoodEnough gets help. Perhaps this will be a chance to get some type of assistance for her mental health, and for the physical situation that she's in.
I think she is in a very dysfunctional situation.

Yes, it seems like her self esteem has been beaten down to almost non existence and it seems like her family is to blame.

Hopefully she got the help she needed and is able to continue to the help she needs.

To all who went out of their way to help in this situation, rest easy.
You did the right thing, even if it may not seem that way to you right now.

I don't think anyone here thinks they did the wrong thing.

I think she was posting as a way to get some type of understanding for the terrible situation that she's in, and I think, once people started giving their advice and pointing out just how harmful it is to her daughter, and not just to her, it tore her apart a bit, and she didn't really know what to do next.

Most cries for help are like this. They want help even if they don't act like it, even if they get mad.

On a side note, I've forwarded this thread to my sister who is a psychologist, I'd love to hear her feedback on this.

[Soulstealer]

I for one found this whole thread alarming, then disturbing and then increasing infuriating and began to wonder if I was being trolled for attention as it escalated to be bluntly honest. People that want to commit suicide don't post play by play updates about it for dramatic effect on the Internet. Thats not the behaviour of someone that really wants to end their life. That's the behaviour of someone that wants attention in one form or another.

You've got a point there GK but a lot of what she said sound similar to abuse victims. It's hard to get them to see the light until they're ready. I'm a little bit ashamed because self defeatist attitudes really bug me even when I know they shouldn't. I hope it was a troll because at least then no one was incredibly hurt. I'd rather we be mad a bit because of a troll then for someone to be in an abusive situation.

I hope Sorryisnotgoodenough will get out of her situation and realize she's better off without her relatives.

[rageaholic]

You've got a point there GK but a lot of what she said sound similar to abuse victims. It's hard to get them to see the light until they're ready. I'm a little bit ashamed because self defeatist attitudes really bug me even when I know they shouldn't. I hope it was a troll because at least then no one was incredibly hurt. I'd rather we be mad a bit because of a troll then for someone to be in an abusive situation.

You're right. This is an instance when I really really hope I'm being lied to. But... I don't think that's the case. Even if she is making some of the stuff up (taking the pills), I can forgive her. If she's in a seriously abusive situation with her family she needs someone, anyone, even if they are anonymous people on the internet to help her. When someone is so emotionally beaten down by everyone they know, it's probably refreshing to hear people actually give a damn.

I really admire the people who actually went out of their way to call her hometown police. I wouldn't have thought of that. I think it shows that even if you don't know someone, you can still give a damn.

To Sorryisgoodenough, if you're still with us, remember that there are people who care. If people online who don't even know you care enough about you to call your hometown police, then you aren't a "waste of time" contrary to your mothers belief. This means people care and it's not your fault! But if you kill yourself, than that will be your fault, so please, don't go there.

I hope you get the help you need, for your sake and your daughters sake.

[Gravekeeper]

You've got a point there GK but a lot of what she said sound similar to abuse victims. It's hard to get them to see the light until they're ready. I'm a little bit ashamed because self defeatist attitudes really bug me even when I know they shouldn't..

Yes, like I said initially I was sympathetic. But it unraveled somewhat as it escalated leaving me with doubts, simply due to the play by play melodrama and the nature of the Internet.

Don't be ashamed of it. They drive me crazy too. There's no reason they shouldn't. They are frustrating for everyone around them and can reach the point where they're draining and burn you out until they begin to negatively impact your life as well. Believe me, I've been down that road a couple times before with people. You can't help someone that does not really want help. No matter how much you may try.

Especially when they, such as in this case, go beyond logic and into extreme manic depression ( In which case we are not qualified for this one ), a need for attention or masterfully epic trolling. Whichever it may be.

I've just seen this scenario in life a few too many times to buy it at face value anymore is all. Especially online.

You're right. This is an instance when I really really hope I'm being lied to.

That would be the best case scenario, yes.

[ditchdj]

Whichever one of you called the cops, I hope you have a horrible year.

Don't interfere.

Whichever called the cops I'd like to thank them. You don't just decide you're gonna end your life and then bring a bunch of strangers into it and then expect everyone to just listen and then move on.

[Red_Dazes]

I don't have any friends really here in WAshington state. I moved here from Wyoming and I don't know how to make friends.

Okay Cutie, I'm in Washington with you. I live about for hours away. So Don't go saying you are all alone, I know I'm not the only person here who is in Washington either.

Nice to know my family members aren't the only ones who think I'm a horrible mother who doesn't care enough about my daughter.

No one EVER said you were a horrible mother. You said that all on your own. We are trying to get you to THINK OF HOW YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT YOUR CHILD. ((apologies for the caps lock)) You kid is more important than your misery. How awful would you feel if your brother beat the shit out of your child?
Sometimes you just can't get on with your family. Sometimes you just have go cut your losses and get out of the situation.

I'm really glad you have people here looking out for you. I can't imagine how awful it would be to lose your parent that young. especially to something like suicide. My father died when I was young... and it almost destroyed me. Don't do that to your kid. There are places you can go, half way houses, crisis shelters, hell even missions. You can get on your feet. I know some programs even have cars they will let you drive, or people who will give you rides.
Giving up is NOT okay, you are NOT worthless. No one is. People make you FEEL worthless, they can beat you down and spit on you. But no one can make you worthless except you. I don't think you are worthless. You have a wonderful child, who looks up to you and loves you and NEEDS you. That right there is the BEST kind of worth you can have. Don't give up lovely. Not when there are soooo many many options open for you.

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, but if I have to I am going drag you kicking and screaming somewhere safe, safe for you and your kid. A few hours out of my day isn't even close to how much time of grief and pain your kid is going to go though if you do something stupid like kill yourself.

...IF for no other reason than your child's sake. Live.

[Ree]

Just a reminder to everyone that SorryIsGoodEnough is a valued member here, and has obviously got some serious issues in her life.

I find it extremely unfair to be referring to her as a "troll", or to refer to what happened as a "trolling" attempt.

She is a beautiful young woman who has a very unhappy life, and I think she was overwhelmed by all of it last night.

I hope we hear from her soon because I think we are all very worried about her.

[Kaylyn]

Just posting my two cents here. I have borderline personality disorder (not officially diagnosed, but it's been suggested by several people and backed up by the research I've done on the disorder myself). This sounds exactly like what I have witnessed in my own experiences and had people point out in my behavior, although this example is much more extreme. I myself have advertised suicidal tendencies to those close to me in the past in order to see what kind of reaction I would get; to prove to myself that people really do care enough to stop me. Whether or not SIGE actually took the pills or not, it's been my experience that someone who truly wants to die isn't going to advertise the attempt publicly where someone is bound to get them the help they need. Though some part of her may truly want to die, and though she may argue with those that helped here, another part of her deep down inside wanted the help, or else she would have kept quiet and died without telling anyone what was going on.

Any suicide threat should be taken seriously, so everyone that helped out here did brilliantly. My advice to you, SIGE, if you read this, is to find some sort of help related to personality disorders. There seem to be plenty of people in your area on this board, as evidenced by the number of people that jumped to help you out here, so maybe someone could recommend a good doctor? Maybe even a low-cost/free one, if money is an issue? It may not necessarily be BPD as I suggested, but it hits really close to home for me so that's my suspicion (though I'm not a doctor!). I know you sometimes feel like no one understands you, that no one knows what you're going through, but I for one know just how you feel. You're not alone, and there is help out there.

[Dreamstalker]

I wasn't online as this was unfolding, and read the entire thread in detail before commenting.

It looks as if whatever I was going to say has been said already, so I'll just say this:

SIGE, honey, there are people who really care about you and want to help. Your daughter loves you and needs you. You can get out from under this.

[Chazzie]

I wasn't here when this all unfolded myself, but I just want to say I'm extremely impressed with how everyone here handled this. I don't think I've ever seen a more caring forum than this one.

I hope you'll be okay, SIGE. Please put some serious thought into being proud of who you are and the things you do.

[Evil Queen]

I'm glad one thing hasn't changed in my absense, that this continues to be a caring community.

I have high hopes that SIGE is okay and safe. Maybe the reason she hasn't responded is because she's in the hospital? That's my guess anyways.

[Gravekeeper]

I find it extremely unfair to be referring to her as a "troll", or to refer to what happened as a "trolling" attempt.

That is but one possibility and I believe I explained precisely why I had my doubts and my viewpoint was quite reasonable considering the nature of the beast we currently reside on. Heck, you yourself were the first to cast doubt about the thread before you edited some of her posting history into your post.

I don't believe she expected anyone to react as seriously as they did which leads me to believe this was more for attention and sympathy. Especially considering the sudden dramatic backpedaling and threats to ward people off when they got too close or serious. Though logic still stands, as you said, what did she expect would occur by posting this? That people would just go "Oh well that sucks" and move on to the next topic?

Highly unlikely considering the caliber of community here.