So, I may be responsible for a child being homeless...

[fireheart]

I think I'd probably be one of the younger folk on this board, I was born in 1990.

That said, I can't really add much here because it's all been said.

[McGoddess09]

Quit making me feel like a baby! Grrr! I think one of the only people younger than me is Gawdzillers or he might be the same age.

Funny how I am talking to people who are about my parents' ages (Mom: 36 Dad:40) or my grandparents' ages (they are in their 60s). I just don't get treated like a child here and I like it!

[Chromatix]

"Just a phase," she says. Yes, it would be just a phase - IF she started enforcing some discipline.

Otherwise it's going to be a "phase" that lasts all the way through teenage years, and ends in jail or the morgue.

[SengaKitty]

My safest bet is to give two weeks notice (which at this point I am not doing without backup, I want my fiance there both for safety and as a witness, also when the notice is served it will be videoed just in case).

Have your local sheriff's office serve her. That way, not only are you not putting *yourself* in harm's way, but there is also a government agency witness.

[dalesys]

I think I may be the oldest poster. I was born in '51.

Smiley, do what you have to do to protect your reputation, but if it comes down to your reputation or your safety, boot them ASAP. With uniformed help.

What a pair of turds.

71% probability you're older than me.

As the pilots say: Check your six!(oh)

[shankyknitter]

Parroting what everyone else has said. Get photographs and get uniformed help. If for nothing else than to start a paper trail.


(adding to the birthday tally- I turn 22 in December. 12-17-1988. I'm a youngin' )

[XCashier]

I'm sorry you're going through this for helping someone out. It's true that no good deed goes unpunished.

I'm agreeing with everyone else here; contact the police (at the very least for advice and to leave a paper trail), photograph your possessions, have your fiance as backup.

This kid is 13, so he is old enough to know that what he is doing is wrong, and likely big enough to inflict serious damage to person or property. You may find yourself having to defend yourself from his attacks. You have the right to live without a huge bullseye on your back. The sooner you are rid of these jerks, the better.

[Megg]

I think I'd probably be one of the younger folk on this board, I was born in 1990.

My stepdaughter was born in 1990. I myself am 33, just for the record.

I have to agree with photographic evidence as well as suggest video if you can get it. There's less chance for them to cry "doctored photo" if you have a matching video, ya know? Ironclad, as it were. Please be careful, and I hope that poor kid gets the help he needs. Somewhere else, where he can't hurt anyone.

[Gawdzillers]

You're getting married?
Girrrrrrrrrl! (Yeah, I know you're a guy, I use that expression for a lot of things)

[Red_Dazes]

Have your local sheriff's office serve her. That way, not only are you not putting *yourself* in harm's way, but there is also a government agency witness.

I agree 100%, it's what the cops are there for.
If we lived closer I would volunteer the Beau and my buddy Perry for extra muscle, those two together make even the scariest person look tame. lol.

[Lace Neil Singer]

That kid needs help. Majorly bad. My oldest male cousin started acting that way when he was a teen. Not saying it will happen to that kid, but said cousin is now in jail for breaking and entering, larceny, kidnapping 1st degree of a minor, and murder second degree.

Kids are capable too of murder; remember Mary Bell, Venables and Thompson and Jesse Pomeroy. This kid sounds right out of that mould, and it's probably down to his stupid mother thinking that he'll grow out of it.

I agree with what others have said; get this bitch and her demonic offspring out of your house as soon as possible. If Damien threatens you again, call the police. No-one should have to live in fear in their own home.

[Skelly]

That kid needs help. Majorly bad. My oldest male cousin started acting that way when he was a teen. Not saying it will happen to that kid, but said cousin is now in jail for breaking and entering, larceny, kidnapping 1st degree of a minor, and murder second degree.

Yeah, a good whipping to start with, followed by possibly an exorcism, and then perhaps being fitted with an electronic dog collar...

[Misanthropical]

I think I may be the oldest poster. I was born in '51.

Smiley, do what you have to do to protect your reputation, but if it comes down to your reputation or your safety, boot them ASAP. With uniformed help.

What a pair of turds.

My husband was born in '51 but of course he doesn't come on theses boards. I'm turning 40 on 12-14, so I don't feel like someone about to turn 40. My big guy is graduated high school this year.

I agree with others that are saying to boot this bitch and her little brat out as soon as humanly possible! Always and I do mean always report death threats.

My little guy is 12 and if he said something like that brat did or even did half the things that brat did I would come down on him like the wrath of God. There is no way I would ever take that as "a phase".

It's your home, you are suppose to feel safe in your own home, so kick them to the curb!

[XCashier]

My little guy is 12 and if he said something like that brat did or even did half the things that brat did I would come down on him like the wrath of God. There is no way I would ever take that as "a phase".

Any sensible parent would. This woman is not sensible and barely a parent. She is an idiot for allowing her kid to become a violent thug, and being too lazy to teach him right from wrong. You should not have to suffer for her stupidity.

[DGoddessChardonnay]

Had that kind of behavior happened in my house, my mother would have put them both out then and there. She has a low tolerance for BS or threats, and she would not hesitate to call 911 for assistance if needed.

We tried to help a friend of mine last winter and her hubby after they got kicked out of a homeless shelter (we later found out the reason being was they didn't want to attend the mandatory meetings, so therefore they kicked themselves out.)

And this is the SHORT version of what we had to put up with:

I'd gotten a phone call from her out of the blue around first part of Febuary (IIRC) and we were on the phone almost 2 hours. Mainly her whining about having to move downstairs into the dorms out of their upstairs 2 room apartment b/c it was being given to a single mom with 5 kids who'd arrived during the weekend. Needless to say, I tried to tell her then I wasn't sure if we'd be able to help any and we really didn't have any spare room. I even warned Mom after filling her in on what I was told.

Two weeks later, she called again and talked with my Mom. She and hubby were kicked out (some lame story about being caught with a couple of cookies under her bed in the dorm area she was sharing w/3 other females) and they had nowhere else to go. Mom told them to come over for the night and we'd figure out something in the morning (this was on a Saturday evening, so we were going to give them until Monday at the latest.) They ended up with my bedroom, I ended up on the loveseat in the dining room.

A few days turned into a few weeks. Ended up having to kick the hubby out during the first week because he was argumentative, wouldn't take showers regularly, etc. so he was taken to another shelter, but allowed to visit during the day. Girlfriend stayed, but kept refusing to get up and go look for a job, thinking that she'd be able to get on Disability b/c of her eyesight being so bad. She'd sleep until late afternoon when I'd come home and be up half the night on her laptop chatting with friends or playing games instead of searching for somewhere to live.

He took advantage of that to the point where he came in one day while I was at work and the two of them stayed in my bedroom all morning long. Needless to say, I was not the happy camper when I found out that afternoon when Mom picked me up from work and I pointedly asked why she didn't throw both of them out on the street. Instead of coming home and getting online, I ended up having to strip down my bed all the way including the dust ruffles and take everything to the laundromat (washer was still not working then) and get everything cleaned up.

Girlfriend was given until the end of April to find somewhere else to go, which she did within the first week of that month, but refused to leave until the very last day. Even then, with some people from her mom's church coming to help them with the move, she was still reluctant (I could partly understand b/c the hubby is a royal jerk who doesn't manage money or know how to interact with others.) But we got rid of her and we've sworn we'd never let anyone else stay with us again.

We still get mail for them, as they haven't changed their address still - even the overdraft notices from their bank still come to our house. She won't come by to pick up the mail and we're not taking it to her. She's not that far from us, so if she wants her mail, she can come get it herself.

Only time we hear from her is when she wants something. We did start taking her back and forth to work for the first 2 weeks that she had her current job (which she finally found after she got it through her head that she wasn't going to get Disability for her eyes and yet she could still see well enough to read books and stay online half the night) until she got her first paycheck, then she had to make her own way. We even went as far as taking her to the bank so she could open up her own separate account (as the joint one with her hubby is constantly overdrawn b/c he goes out and blows money on whatever hits his fancy without any consideration to what is needed.)

But she'll call again . . . that we're sure of. It's a question of time before they lose their apartment and they're back on the street again. And what will our answer be when we get that call?

Sorry, we can't help you any further. We've done all we're able to do. Call either your mom or your dad.

But yeah, save yourself the headache and give both mother and son the boot. Call 911 for help from local law enforcement and tell them you've been threatened. They'll move 'em out for you and possibly contact CPS about the child.

You'll sleep better and have your peace of mind back. And that's worth more than all the money in the world.

BTW, on the age thing: I'm 41 so I'm in the middle of the pack here (and still running 3 weeks behind MadMike.)