Go AWAY!

[blas]

Unfortunately in some places you can only get a protective order if you have been dating that person, but I don't think anywhere is exempt from an "ex parte" restraining order, which is one you can go immediately in an emergency for and try to get put against the person right away, and then a few days later it will go to court and it will be reviewed to see how long it can be in effect.

[Mytical]

Wow..that guy must be off his meds..or on too many of them. That is not even close to being ok. Not much to add that others haven't.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Restraining orders are difficult to get; it seems that there has to be an actual dating relationship first (although if we bring the disability into the picture that may not matter). I'll look into that further.

Please do. That sounds like pure horseshit to me, spouted by someone who didn't want to do paperwork.

First all, you WERE on a date.

Second, if that were true, no radio dj, television figure, musician, politician, etc etc etc who was being stalked by a weirdo would not be able to get a restraining order. People in the public eye frequently pick up stalkers. It happens every other monday.

Looks like it might take a little work to make someone do their job. But that excuse sounds extremely suspect.

[Dips]

From this link:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc...massachusetts-

It appears that you do have to have a dating relatinoship but you've been on a date, so don't let anyone talk you out of filing the paperwork on that basis. I am not a lawyer, though, so I could be wrong.

You also have to have fear of imminent physical harm and the law is pretty specific about the basis for that belief. The fact that he grabbed you without permission and tried to kiss you sounds, to me, like attempted sexual assault. Again, I am not a lawyer, so I could be wrong.

This guy sounds very dangerous. I don't want to scare you but I wouldn't count on him not finding out your address. Get good locks and make sure you have a neighbor you trust looking out for you.

[PepperElf]

i have to agree.

besides... it sounds like the creep THINKS you have a dating relationship. One in which he feels it's OK to force his mouth onto yours.

But really you went on one date and he tried to force himself onto your mouth. So according to that link above, i think you qualify for "Dating Relationship" and for "Defendant placed you in fear of imminent serious physical harm"

cos you seem to think that this man WILL try to justify raping you if you should date him more.

[Dreamstalker]

Wow..that guy must be off his meds..or on too many of them.

Brass: "What drugs is he on?"
Warrick: "Whatever it is it's either too much or not enough."

In additional to getting a pepperspray permit (couldn't hurt as I'm taking night classes this semester anyway) and researching an ex parte order I'm also going to contact the group facilitator and ask what his reaction to being banned was (they could take further action and would have additional legal clout as they'd be aware of previous violent tendencies).

Only management can change locks and it's more of a reactive thing, but everyone watches out for each other in this complex.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Yep. That's a bizarre restriction. How do you take out an order against a random stalker?

Well, if it's any consolation, it's not like a restraining order is going to keep the guy from bothering you. It wont. It will just give them something else to charge him with if he bothers you again.

I imagine you can still start a file with the cops against him if he does not leave you alone at this point.

[Dips]

Only management can change locks and it's more of a reactive thing, but everyone watches out for each other in this complex.

Good. And as long as they're good locks you don't need to change them.

[MoonCat]

RK has the right idea. Wow, this guy is a nutjob!

[kpzra]

Sandy's Law has you covered:

Commonwealth of Massachusetts
Chapter 164 of the Acts of 2000
"Sandy's Law"

AN ACT RELATIVE TO THE CRIME OF CRIMINAL HARASSMENT

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:
Chapter 265 of the General Laws is hereby amended by inserting after section 43 the following section:
Section 43A. (a) Whoever willfully and maliciously engages in a knowing pattern of conduct or series of acts over a period of time directed at a specific person, which seriously alarms that person and would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress, shall be guilty of the crime of criminal harassment and shall be punished by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not more than $1,000, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Such conduct or acts described in this paragraph shall include, but not limited to, conduct or acts conducted by mail or by use of a telephonic or telecommunication device including, but not limited to, electronic mail, internet communications or facsimile communications.
(b) Whoever, after having been convicted of the crime of criminal harassment, commits a second or subsequent such crime, or whoever commits the crime of criminal harassment having previously been convicted of a violation of section 43, shall be punished by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than two an one-half years or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than ten years.

Approved August 1, 2000

http://www.feelsafeagain.org/index.htm

[Mytical]

I am by no means a violent person. Some have even called me a wimp ..but for some reason guys like what the OP faced just make me mad. Not only do I not like being associated with such..creeps (even by them just being the male of the species)..but I can not understand them. Might as well be trying to figure out a Martians brain.

I understand the concept of "A thousand 'no' is acceptable if you get one 'yes'" but no means no. It does not mean maybe or yes. Which is why there is a thread on fratching by me on the subject (been there for awhile). Other guys can call me 'whipped' or various other names meant to be derogatory, won't help me understand the jerks of the world. *shrugs*

[Dreamstalker]

Myt, I don't generalize (I haven't actually met you and I think you're cool ); this guy has some social problems. It seems that his only social interaction for the most part is other Aspies, which doesn't really give the 'training' someone might need (given that, I don't know if what he was doing could be considered willful malice or just clueless; whatever, he disturbs me).

Thanks 24601, I thought stalking was covered in the MGL but couldn't remember the name.

[Mytical]

I hope you didn't think I thought you were, sorry about that. It's just guys like the one you dealt with irk me to no ends. There is too little respect in the world, and you have to give respect to earn respect. Anybody (male or female) who doesn't respect 'no' needs to get hit by a clue by four .

Disclaimer : Not a 2x4..that would be assault

[Dreamstalker]

No worries, I didn't think you thought I was Martian brain is right, I think even that would be a walk in the park compared to this guy.

[BlaqueKatt]

Please do. That sounds like pure horseshit to me, spouted by someone who didn't want to do paperwork.<snip>
Second, if that were true

stalker laws are strange-for instance here you have to be able to PROVE they knew their actions were making you uncomfortable(either impartial witness to you saying it, or a certified letter)-it's seriously messed up, which is why I can't do a whole lot about my stalkers......